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Greg Siskind on Immigration Law and Policy

House Hearing Doubles Down on GOP Anti-Immigration Message

Rating: 2 votes, 5.00 average.

Just the title of the hearing - "Holiday on ICE" - tells you a lot. ICE has recently undertaken a number of initiatives to improve health care, detention standards, access to counsel, etc. at its detention facilities after years of scathing reports. Now apparently the House Immigration Subcommittee thinks they're operating resorts and wants to know why detainees are being treated so well. The Karl Roves and Marco Rubios in the GOP must be cringing when they see this sort of thing. But perhaps losing the White House and a number of Senate and House seats as Hispanics vote in huge numbers for Democrats in the fall will have a sobering effect on the party. Of course, every pundit is saying the same thing and it doesn't seem to be getting through.

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  1. Jack's Avatar
    "Detainees will be free to move through much of the center 24 hours a day. Unarmed staff members, dressed in blue polo shirts and khaki trousers, are known as "resident advisers," not guards."

    "Inside, behind high tan-colored walls, the center has the feel of a school, with dormitories of bunk beds, a gymnasium, a library, computers with Internet access, cable television, a medical center, landscaped courtyards, an outdoor soccer pitch and courts for basketball and volleyball."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/14/us/model-immigration-detention-center-unveiled-in-texas.html



    Sounds a lot like "Camp Cupcake". At least it has walls. You can't make the extremes on either side happy. Pro-enforcements would prefer something as spartan and cheap as possible. Anti-enforcements who don't think there should be accountability to immigration law at all, let alone detention related to it, will be upset no matter how luxurious a facility is.
  2. Legal and no longer waiting's Avatar
    Jack, well, guess what, the vast majority of these people have never and will never be charged with any crime, even a misdemeanor. If you think, it is ok to lock up people for simple civil violations, then you should be locked up for every traffic or parking ticket.
  3. Another Voice's Avatar
    Rubio does not represent Latinos, yet he has done a magnificent job fitting into the modern republican party. Republicans love him but Latinos do not....so the Repuks will cling to this guy as a hail mary pass to get some of the Latino vote, but they will still only end up with the Cuban vote in 2012. Rubio will get the message that if he has his mind in 2016 he will have to pull some major Romney flip flops to get the Latino votes it will be easier to pander to the republican base that to gain the Latino vote for him. As far as the hearing what else do we expect from Lamar Smith he is just playing his classics is music to the republican base.
  4. George Chell's Avatar
    "But perhaps losing the White House and a number of Senate and House seats as Hispanics vote in huge numbers for Democrats in the fall will have a sobering effect on the party."

    It clearly shows in Florida....

    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-28/news/fl-quinnipiac-obama-gop-poll-20120328_1_obama-romney-barack-obama-florida-voters
  5. Jack's Avatar
    "If you think, it is ok to lock up people for simple civil violations"

    That is a common misunderstanding of why they are detained. It is not as a punishment for a violation of law. It is to ensure that these individuals appear at all of their hearings (removal, asylum, etc.) Since such detention is not a sentence, some argue that the facilities should not resemble typical prisons and want detention used as little as necessary (if at all). Of course, some of these critics wouldn't mind simply assigning every person a hearing date and if a ton of them never bother to show up, oh well! Another strategy might be to politically force as high of spending as possible on the detention so that it takes funds away from the enforcement budget. ACLU and legal arms of open border organizations (who want to politically discredit not just detention, but enforcement in general) might keep filing suits even if conditions improve.
  6. USC's Avatar
    "That is a common misunderstanding of why they are detained."

    Perhaps, a high bail amount ad/or electronic monitoring (ie ankle bracelet) might be more appropriate?
  7. Legal and no longer waiting's Avatar
    "It is to ensure that these individuals appear at all of their hearings (removal, asylum, etc.)"

    1. You are locking people up for a simple civil law violation because you want them to come to court. By that same logic, if you get a parking ticket, you will need to be locked up, because - what if you don't pay it?
    2. You are afraid they will flee... where exactly? Despite the hearing being benefitial to them in many respects, and feeing resulting in a warrant for their arrest? With a warrant, they will be caught in the US. But it of course would be a disaster if they flee abroad, right where you are trying to send them at a great cost through removal procedings.
  8. Another Voice's Avatar
    "With a warrant, they will be caught in the US."

    They will be free to do awful things like being a Dishwasher, vegetable picker, construction worker, line cook or meat processing plant workers. Such awful things that society should not tolerate.
  9. gg's Avatar
    Illegal immigrants who are immediate relatives of citizens could stay in the U.S. while applying for permanent residency.

    (New rules to be posted in the Federal Register on Monday ... Likely to affect over a million immigrants)

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-immigration-residency-20120331,0,1148661.story
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