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Romney Says He Would Veto Dream Act

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Kiss the Hispanic vote goodbye. Romney must either be politically foolish and thinks this position is going to help him get the GOP nomination (it won't make a difference) or he genuinely believes in this view. In any case, he's given the President great material for an anti-Romney commercial aimed at Latino voters.

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  1. Jack's Avatar
    "For those who come here illegally, the idea of giving them in-state tuition credits or other special benefits I find to be contrary to the idea of a nation of law."


    David Axelrod, Obama's top political strategist, highlighted Romney's comments on Twitter, calling Romney "wrong on principle & politics."


    Politics maybe but principle? Unless a law is unjust, how can supporting rule of law be wrong? Especially considering it is the bedrock of democracy itself! If you start carving out not just case-by-case but categorical exceptions for certain law violators, where do you stop? The new MLK sounds more cynical than righteous when he admits DREAM is just a "down payment" to build momentum for broad legalization--there is no intention to stop undermining this law and obstructing its enforcement. Let's face it--the Democratic position on immigration law enforcement is about political expediency. Because they benefit politically from illegal immigration, they are happy to trash rule of law. And not just any law, but that which controls immigration, a "fundamental sovereign attribute". Everybody knows the Democrats are corrupt when it comes to immigration so it takes nerve to act like it's about principles. At least Axelrod admits the politics so he doesn't come off as ridiculous as some people.

    "DREAMers" are a special case, you might argue. Well, it's not just them Democrats want to legalize. So all that "they had no choice" stuff is not the justification because legalization proponents also want to legalize the ones who chose to illegally enter or overstay. So what's the principle there? That it's unjust to enforce immigration law at all, that the law itself is unjust?
  2. Tex's Avatar
    There is no need for the DREAM Act to allow illegal immigrants to enlist (and then immediately naturalize under 8 U.S.C. 1440). President Obama, if he wanted to, could allow illegal immigrants like C?sar Vargas to enlist in the military under the authority at 10 USC 504(b)(2). The Department of Defense could determine such enlistment to be "in the national interest" and, at the appropriate moment in the process, DHS could issue such enlistees an employment authorization document under 8 U.S.C. 1324a(h)(3).
  3. Legal and no longer waiting's Avatar
    "Unless a law is unjust, how can supporting rule of law be wrong?"

    You got your answer right there.
  4. Another Voice's Avatar
    He is just too deperate to fit into the cconservative tag that he will just about to say anything..... He thinks Marco Rubio is going to save him face with Hispanics.
  5. Jack's Avatar
    "he's given the President great material for an anti-Romney commercial aimed at Latino voters."

    Obama gave the Republican nominee great material with his not just non-enforcement but reward policy (work permit) for those unlawfully present aliens we catch. There's simply no defensible justification for it--especially at a time of very high unemployment.

  6. Another Voice's Avatar
    "Obama gave the Republican nominee great material with his not just non-enforcement but reward policy (work permit) for those unlawfully present aliens we catch. There's simply no defensible justification for it--especially at a time of very high unemployment."

    Mmm... let's see if I was in the Obama campaign and I were to be attacked with this bone headed argument I would say. Record deportations in the first 3 years more than in the previous 8 years of a republican administration, more states assisting the Federal government enforce immigration laws through secure communities and 287 g, arrests at the border at at all time lows, cut government waste spending by channeling efforts and cutting courts backlogs by focusing on criminal aliens. I think the American people would say that is progress on "securing the border", now is time for a smart , sensible, 21st century AMERICAN type of solution. Bring the Immigration system to the 21st century for legal immigration and DEAL with the millions out of status that are very much a part of our society and way of life. END once and for all the PIPE DREAM of the deport them all agenda that will never happen and should not even be part of the ADULT conversation.
  7. Legal and no longer waiting's Avatar
    "There's simply no defensible justification for it--especially at a time of very high unemployment."

    Anyone with some knowledge of economics would argue the opposite. The more people you get to work, the more things they buy, the more businesses earn, the more people get hired.
  8. Sa's Avatar
    I guess he is being honest in this case unlike Obama who said he will make CIR a priority in his first term.
  9. Another Voice's Avatar
    "I guess he is being honest in this case unlike Obama"

    It's easy being honest when you stand for nothing and do not offer a solution to a problem, just say NO. Some leadership this guy brings to the table....not saying that Obama is perfect or has done it right here, he has not!!
  10. Jack's Avatar
    "Anyone with some knowledge of economics would argue the opposite. The more people you get to work, the more things they buy, the more businesses earn, the more people get hired."

    He's the President, not king. As the executor of Congress' law, he can't just rationalize non-enforcement of a law with a policy argument. Thus, Obama's justification for the Morton memo suspension of cases is limited resources. We are to believe that he doesn't really just want the vast majority of immigration law violators to get away with it and stay. The work permit belies that, taking it from non-enforcement to reward. That is an incentive to stay in violation of the law. What is their justification for that reward? They can't use the limited resources excuse. Obama likes to say he is bound by the law. Well, when the law says a person is not supposed to be here, what is the official reason for undermining that law by giving that person a work permit? The work permit means he wants you to stay which just so happens to be in violation of law. As the executor of laws, it looks bad to just say "Well, I just don't like that law". He needs a reason. This is different from support for a new (amnesty) law: He's supposed to be bound by the law on the books. If this is too complicated for the average voter, Obama's permit gives the alien a right he otherwise would not have to legally take a job an American needs. The Republican can simply ask him why he did that and see what he says? He won't answer because there is no defensible answer. You really think "The more people you get to work, the more things they buy, the more businesses earn, the more people get hired" would fly with Americans out of work or not working as much as they want? The work permit means they can go take any job they can get, not just typical illegal alien hiring industries. Why give them that? It could even be asked "Where do you get off giving illegal aliens work permits when so many Americans are out of work?" Can you imagine the spooked look on Obama's face if someone actually asked him?
  11. Another Voice's Avatar
    Jack SHOW US the proof that the Morton memo is granting legal status and giving work permits to some people. You must have stats, let's see it other wise you know what they say " Money talks and Jack walks".
  12. Another Voice's Avatar
    Jack please produce the stats where natives are taking the jobs that Immigrants do, if you have some Georgia agricultural jobs, you may gain some supporters here. We are counting on you to produce Jack......Jack where are they what happened someone cut your tongue or fingers????
  13. Another Voice's Avatar
    LOL!!!! here's someone from your team just getting the memo....tell him Jack that the Morton memo can help him, or give him your stats!! Jack do not go quiet on me Jack..........

    Ga. ag chief: Congress must fix immigration system

    http://www.ajc.com/news/ga-ag-chief-congress-1288759.html
  14. Legal and no longer waiting's Avatar
    "He's the President, not king. As the executor of Congress' law, he can't just rationalize non-enforcement of a law with a policy argument."

    Jack, adultery is a crime in South Carolina. If you want the laws to be enforced, you should start with real crimes, like this felony. Once you have all felonies cleaned up, we can talk about enforcing benign civil violations like being in the country illegally.
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