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Greg Siskind on Immigration Law and Policy

Priority Date Bill Up for Full House Vote Tomorrow

Rating: 2 votes, 3.00 average.

ImmigrationVoice, the skilled workers advocacy organization (I serve on their board of outside advisors by the way) is reporting that the Fairness for High Skilled Immigrants Act (HR 3012), the bill which would eliminate per country quotas that discriminate against Indians and other nationals, is headed for a vote in the full House of Represenatives tomorrow evening. It still faces an uncertain future as it moves to the Senate, but congrats to IV for its work advocating for this much needed legislation. If you're not an IV member, consider joining and contributing.

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  1. S's Avatar
    We just have to wait and see what Durbins and Grassleys of the Senate would do. Durbin is known for pushing/attaching his legalization agenda (Dream ) with every immigration bill.
  2. Legal and no longer waiting's Avatar
    And having legalization attached would be a no-no for this bill, how? Everyone has their own agenda. At least Durbin is trying to provide some additional benefits. This bill is about re-dividing, not adding.
  3. S's Avatar
    "And having legalization attached would be a no-no for this bill, how? Everyone has their own agenda. At least Durbin is trying to provide some additional benefits. This bill is about re-dividing, not adding."

    Because , Amnesty will go nowhere in the senate or house. They did not do anything to address legalization when they have super majority in the Senate , controlled the house and the white house.
  4. George Chell's Avatar
    Charles "the ***" Grassley will try to kill it, driving more jobs to Canada or to the incubator. He is as dumb and stupid as it comes for a Republican non-racist and he is not racist! Just stupid as is Bernie "the Braindead" Sanders....but then again may be he has his own agenda..perhaps if jobs go to Montreal from the Silicon Valley, some of the people from Montreal may spend their money in Vermont which they wont do if jobs are in far away California. May be Sanders has secret agreement with the Canadians!
  5. George Chell's Avatar
    Of course, does it have a great chance of passing the House tomorrow?
  6. Legal and no longer waiting's Avatar
    First, the Senate has its own bills and may vote whichever way they like. Second, who says 3012 alone has better chances than being paired up with the DREAM act?

    And of course it would be a really interesting karmic retribution if DREAM Act and 3012 passed together, with DREAM Act recipients having to file in EB3, adding 300K Latin and Central American nationals to the category. It would show how commited people are to being treated equal.
  7. Anon's Avatar
    LNLW, I find your comments quite interesting. Well, the whole point of this bill is First-Come First-Serve.

    If 300k Latin and Central Americans are added to EB3, so be it! So what priority date do you think they will use? The dates their parents entered the country illegally or the day they enter the queueing system. I think you are biased and you know it.
  8. Legal and no longer waiting's Avatar
    Why do you find my comments interesting? Because I don't subscribe to "help me, screw everyone else" point of view?
  9. Sa's Avatar
    "Because I don't subscribe to "help me, screw everyone else" point of view?"

    No one is getting screwed because of this . This bill just removes the unfairness of country quotas in EB immigration. This bill increses the country caps in FB immigration.
  10. S's Avatar
    "Because I don't subscribe to "help me, screw everyone else" point of view?"

    That is what attaching Dream to this bill does . "help me, screw everyone else"
  11. JoeF's Avatar
    "No one is getting screwed because of this"

    Of course people are getting screwed because of it.
    Everybody who is not from India or China is getting screwed.
  12. JoeF's Avatar
    @s:"That is what attaching Dream to this bill does . "help me, screw everyone else""

    Just as this bill screws everybody who is not from India or China. Same thing. Just different people.
    If you don't like Dream to be attached to it, then you logically must oppose the whole bill...
  13. S's Avatar
    "Of course people are getting screwed because of it.
    Everybody who is not from India or China is getting screwed."

    Everybody who is not from India or China so far is getting a special treatment so far. This bill ends it . Employers dont consider country origin while choosing employees.
  14. S's Avatar
    "If you don't like Dream to be attached to it, then you logically must oppose the whole bill..."

    This bill does not deal with illegals . This bill just reconfigures the way visas are allocated . Amnesty is different beast , Proponents of Amnesty have tried and failed so many times so far.
  15. JoeF's Avatar
    @S: "This bill does not deal with illegals . This bill just reconfigures the way visas are allocated ."

    And screwing people, lots of people, in the process.

    "Amnesty is different beast"

    Dream has nothing to do with amnesty.
  16. JoeF's Avatar
    "Everybody who is not from India or China so far is getting a special treatment so far."

    No, they don't. Everybody is subject to the country quotas. Nobody gets "special treatment."
    With your argument, there also should be no special treatment in DV for certain countries.
    Where is your support for allowing people from the UK, for example, or from Bangla Desh, to participate in the visa lottery?
  17. Picadally's Avatar
    Greg,

    You mention "uncertain future as it moves to the Senate" - does the bill not have any chance to pass in the Senate - is it still possible.
  18. Sick of the Hypocricy's Avatar
    JoeF;
    How do two wrongs make a right? So if DV bars some countries, EB should make some people wait a decade while others waltz through, based on nothing but country of birth? Please hear yourself talk.
    What is wrong with first come first serve? Why should my country of birth determine my employment prospects and career? I don't come here as Indian or Chinese and you don't come here as whatever you came as. We come here as individuals based on employment needs. To hold one of us back because we come from highly populated lands is simply discrimination.

    In future I know how to interpret your talk about DREAM/Hispanics/Undocumented/Discrimination/Arizona et al. You clearly don't really care, except about you own. Hypocrite!!!!

    As far as DREAM is concerned, why doom one measure which miraculously has bipartisan support by adding another that doesn't? There's work left to be done for DREAM. But this all or nothing philosophy is crap and even the Hispanic caucus has abandoned it. Go look at the list of co sponsors for 3012. If you want DREAM fight for it. We fought for 3012. I would fight for DREAM too, though you make me wonder why I should bother with advocates like you that grudge me any benefit without you getting your pound of flesh.
  19. Sick of the Hypocricy's Avatar
    "No, they don't. Everybody is subject to the country quotas. Nobody gets "special treatment.""

    Yes they do. 40% of the world is held back and they are pushed ahead in the line. That is special treatment. I'm sorry if you can't recognize it when it benefits you. But the fact remains.
  20. JoeF's Avatar
    First off, nobody get special treatment in EB. Everybody has a country quota. That's a fact, and no distortion changes that.
    Second, it is unfortunate that there is a larger delay for people from certain countries, but that does not negate the first fact.
    Third, throwing around numbers like 40% doesn't make it right, either. This is a number that somebody dreamed up. Provide a reliable primary source for it.
    Fourth, people are "only held back" if they have switched their brain off when seeing the magic letters U, S, and A. How about considering a career in another country that is welcoming you more. Vote with your feet.
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