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Greg Siskind on Immigration Law and Policy

White House Hints It Will Oppose E-Verify-only Bill

Rating: 4 votes, 5.00 average.

Lamar Smith is pushing for swift passage of his E-Verify mandate bill. While the bill would likely face a tough battle in the Senate, many wonder whether the President would sign or veto it. The White House has been a strong advocate for E-Verify, but it also knows that enforcement-only bills are hugely unpopular in immigrant communities.


So recent comments by DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano are telling:



Although the Obama administration favors the expanded use of the electronic E-Verify system to confirm the legal status of prospective employees, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said today that any expansion of E-Verify must be part of a larger immigration reform plan.

'If you just do E-Verify, you're not doing enough,' she told a breakfast meeting with reporters.

Napolitano said that E-Verify expansion should be part of a package that also includes the DREAM Act, which allows some children of Napolitano said that E-Verify expansion should be part of a package that also includes the DREAM  Act, which allows illegal immigrants a pathway to U.S. citizenship, along with expanded H1B visas for high-tech workers and H2A visas.



Of course, this isn't really comprehensive immigration reform, but that's okay in my opinion. Interestingly, Napolitano is quoted saying E-Verify "can and should be part of (comprehensive) immigration reform." Note that the Houston Chronicle reporter has put "comprehensive" in parenthesis assuming that Napolitano meant comprehensive reform. But I think she probably meant exactly what she said - just reform. Efforts to pass a comprehensive immigration bill have gone nowhere now for seven years and the politics have only gooten worse. But piecemeal immigration reform is an easier lift and it could be that we get some important reforms like the DREAM Act, perhaps AgJobs and skilled worker reforms in exchange for an E-Verify mandate. I'd take that deal if it were on the table, though I know many in the pro-immigrant community will reject anything less than perfect. But we all know that the perfect solution is the enemy of the good one.

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  1. Another Voice's Avatar
    Cain's solution to immigration

    http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2011/09/05/sot-cain-immigration-demint-forum.scetv?hpt=po_t1
  2. Another Voice's Avatar
    Although ICE has announced the new process, they have not actually implemented it to start reviewing cases. Here is a list of FAQ that ICE put out: http://www.ice.gov/doclib/about/offices/ero/pdf/immigration-enforcement-facts.pdf.

  3. John Lamb's Avatar
    I support employer-focused enforcement. It balances out the imbalance in favor of employee-focused enforcement, and it creates an army of more informed employers.
  4. Jack's Avatar
    Sounds like some potential DA beneficiaries would give up voting in a sec, but somehow I don't think the Democrats would take them up on their offer--it's not about what they want, just their votes:

    http://dreamact.info/forum/showthread.php?t=24302&page=2



    "enforcement-only bills are hugely unpopular in immigrant communities"

    Gee, I wonder why?


    "many in the pro-immigrant community will reject anything less than perfect."

    Many in the anti-enforcement community will reject anything more than complete non-enforcement. Just look how they're sniffing at the order to close deportation cases. In the words of Napolitano, whatever non-enforcement Obama pulls, the anarchists will complain "you're not doing enough". Their intransigence is born out of either an ideology that controlling immigration is illegitimate and immoral or a non-ideological political power grab locked into general amnesty or bust and continuation of no effective verification (which would deter the illegal immigration they support).
  5. Another Voice's Avatar
    "Many in the anti-enforcement community will reject anything more than complete non-enforcement. Just look how they're sniffing at the order to close deportation cases. In the words of Napolitano, whatever non-enforcement Obama pulls, the anarchists will complain "you're not doing enough". Their intransigence is born out of either an ideology that controlling immigration is illegitimate and immoral or a non-ideological political power grab locked into general amnesty or bust and continuation of no effective verification (which would deter the illegal immigration they support)."

    Fortunately for the rest of us we do live in reality Jack not in Anti-Fantasy land.... There have been nothing but enforcement measures for the past 25 years. Perhaps if you have not gotten the result that you so much desire is because perhaps is a stupid strategy that has failed. Yet as usual people like you would rather keep at it than looking at the practical reality.... Certainty if the Obama administration supports the Illegal Immigrant community they have a funny way of showing their love....but hey I know that your folks will not be happy until the 11 million folks are all deported. But they are working on it Jack they have done 1 million and counting so far and they have indicated that the numbers will be robust, so Obama and Napolitano are giving you what you want yet is never enough.... I thought you were an Obama fan!!!

  6. gg's Avatar
    Rep. Lamar Smith (R., Texas), an immigration hardliner who now heads the House Judiciary Committee, plans to introduce a bill Wednesday that would revise an existing guest-worker program and allow up to half a million foreign farm workers a year to work in the U.S.

    Rep. Dan Lungren (R., Calif.), whose district includes almond, rice and grape growers, also is seeking the creation of a new visa category for agricultural workers. He said it would allow "hundreds of thousands" of foreign farm laborers to work in the U.S. for 10 months at a time, the same time frame allotted by Mr. Smith's proposal.

    Stepped-up lobbying by farm groups on the issue amounts to a frank admission about their dependence on a foreign-born work force--whether legal or not. Their argument is that most American workers have shunned farm jobs because many are of a seasonal, migratory nature as well as being physically arduous. ...

    The two agriculture-related proposals in Congress are an attempt to placate farmers who have been descending on Washington since June to fight a separate bill being pushed by Mr. Smith.

    Farm groups claim that bill, known as the E-Verify bill, would lead to a severe labor shortage for a sector that relies on undocumented farm hands
  7. Another Voice's Avatar
    There you go Jack one of yours in GA making you proud I am sure....

    Anti-immigrant extremist appointed to powerful state board

    http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2011/09/06/anti-immigrant-extremist-appointed-to-powerful-state-board/
  8. Jack's Avatar
    "There have been nothing but enforcement measures for the past 25 years."

    Not true. Plenty of legalizations, 245(i), NACARA, etc.


    "Perhaps if you have not gotten the result that you so much desire is because perhaps is a stupid strategy that has failed."

    Your premise that everything's been tried is simply false. We don't even bother to review potential visa overstays numbering in the seven figures. The verification system we have doesn't even bother to check if the ID name and number match. A deportation and border intensive strategy at the expense of deterrence is the failure. Deportation is slow, expensive, and even after removal the person can come back. Does it make sense to pour money at the border knowing that a high percentage get through and once through allow them to work with fake ID, get housing, etc.? You're an open borders utopian and accuse *me* of living in Fantasyland? I'm for lots of smart, effective enforcement strategies which have never been tried (because everybody knows they would work).
  9. Another Voice's Avatar
    "lots of smart, effective enforcement strategies which have never been tried (because everybody knows they would work)."

    Because perhaps they also know that if they were as effective as they may be they would also kill plenty of businesses , hurt the economy and create unnecessary chaos in the US. Because the status quo allows politicians to play political football with the issue and because the restrictionist agenda is not good for America AT ALL... In the past 25 years you cited 2 measures that are not restrictionist in nature yet ALLL other bills in 25 years are meant to make your folks feel good. Guess what after 25 years the system is still broken, there are millions of people out of status and the status quo long lives, not the greatest track record for your folks, not the smartes way to and clearly IS NOT WORKING. Why keep doing the same thing...Because in your mind we still could go the way of turning the US into a police state that will do it in your mind right?? So if turning the US into a defacto police state is your brilliant solution, then we would not exactly be the land of the free...or the land of opportunity... or the american dream would still live... or the fabric of the country is made of immigrants. Instead criminalize the immigrant but not the businesses that so desperately want, use and need their labor... Do not fix the broken system instead pretend that you enforce the outdated immigration laws, keep the status quo alive so you can play politics every election cycle while millions of humans are caught int the dysfunctional system, sounds smart and promising Jack kinda like you.
  10. Jack's Avatar
    "turning the US into a police state"

    My way relies less on arrest. ACLU, MALDEF, et al. raise legitimate concerns over potential abuse of arrest authority. The problem is that the anti-enforcement movement also opposes the alternatives to arrest and support measures which incentivize violation of immigration law.

    There are a ton of things which make illegal presence either more attractive or less attractive. At the federal level, an example currently in the news is a legal ambiguity/loophole and the quadrupling of unlawfully present alien claims under the Additional Child Tax Credit:

    http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/domestic-taxes/179233-report-unauthorized-workers-get-billions-from-tax-credit

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/undocumented-workers-collect-42billion-from-irs-in-tax-credits-audit-finds/2011/09/02/gIQAuuBgxJ_story.html


    At the state level, Califoria is passing lots of laws with the sole purpose of supporting illegal presence. At the local level, there are police mandates and sanctuary policies.
  11. Jack's Avatar
    Another example of bad policy:

    Felons, too, among inmates who [Cook] county won't hold for immigration

    BY LISA DONOVAN Cook County Reporter ldonovan@suntimes.com September 8, 2011 5:58PM

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/7546586-418/felons-too-among-inmates-who-county-wont-hold-for-immigration.html


    "Napolitano said that E-Verify expansion should be part of a package that also includes the DREAM Act...expanded H1B visas for high-tech workers and H2A visas."

    The good old (and never explained) stand alone amnesty OK, stand alone enforcement must have amnesty with it contradiction. Usually it's stand alone E-Verify is hopelessly flawed (58% failure rate) but we're all for CIR of which E-Verify is a core component.









  12. Another Voice's Avatar
    "At the federal level, an example currently in the news is a legal ambiguity/loophole and the quadrupling of unlawfully present alien claims under the Additional Child Tax Credit:"

    You mean that these folks actually pay taxes Jack.....who knew!! I thought they were just freeloaders?
  13. Another Voice's Avatar
    "Usually it's stand alone E-Verify is hopelessly flawed (58% failure rate) but we're all for CIR of which E-Verify is a core component."

    I don't know Jack maybe because if folks are allowed to regularized their status the E-verify will be less overwhelmed with errors as the majority of folks will be here legally. Or maybe the special interest for big business and the Chamber of Commerce like this dressed up form of slavery because it keeps the cost down. If you legalize then labor cost may increase as you must comply with people's legal rights or you must comply with added regulation like e-verify. But if you keep the status quo you keep the labor costs down and production does not get affected by a few folks getting deported here and there.....or maybe deporting 11 million people while we are broke is not something Washington is eager to undertake.... Either way Washington does not seem to like the Anti agenda or the legalize agenda, the want to "Secure the border first" then.....they can see about dealing with the other stuff, that seems to be the plan.
  14. Another Voice's Avatar
    Susana Martinez, New Mexico Governor, Admits Paternal Grandparents Were Undocumented Immigrants

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/08/susana-martinez-new-mexico-immigration-grandparents_n_954459.html
  15. Jack's Avatar
    "You mean that these folks actually pay taxes"

    No, they FILE a return. The typical filer reports a low enough income to owe no income tax but they get the credit back. The stimulus legislation made it even more attractive, thus the quadrupling of the cost.
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