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  1. gg's Avatar
    SENATOR JOHN CORNYN OPINES ON CIR - TRIAL BALLOON ?

    http://www.mysanantonio.com/opinion/commentary/article/Texans-take-note-Obama-s-heart-isn-t-in-983778.php
  2. Greg Siskind's Avatar
    GG - Until the Republicans specify what the benchmarks are for determining when we have "secured the border" I wouldn't read too much in to statements like this. As Secretary Napolitano noted, the goalposts keep moving no matter how tough the White House gets on enforcement.
  3. Another Voice's Avatar
    I don't have faith in the AZ folks I am sure this guy will come out victorious from this matter. Then he'll go have a tequila shot with Arpio!!
  4. gg's Avatar
    hello greg - as you say, i might be drawing wrong conclusions but my analysis is based on the following -

    1. from the reports over the past several weeks the common theme seems to be that republicans are feeling really jittery about their prospects of winning the white house in 2012. there is a section of the party which wants to court hispanic vote because they realize they cannot win the swing states without them.

    2. mitt romney a likely serious candidate for president in 2012 is pro business, likes immigration and is avoiding the tea party like plague these days.

    3. there are reports that there is a messaging issue with the republicans on how to sell immigration reform to their voters. some would want them to tie it to 2012 and get there based excited to make obama a one term president.

    4. pres. obama is going to be promoting his jobs agenda through next weeks and has confirmed that he is going to tie immigration reform with economic recovery. brown (ma) has indicated that he will support immigration reform if its going to be helpful for the economy.

    5. most of the obstruction to immigration reform came from the mccain camp to enable him get reelected for senate as he was running against an ultra conservative oponent. mccain reversed his position the same day he took oath to office and declared his support for immigration reform once border is secured.

    6. last quarter of 2010 was the fastest growth rate in 26yrs .. 3.2%

    7. lamar smith and steve king are the two people making noises these days but that should not be a suprise to anyone.

    8. through this oped senator john cornyn is an openly challenging pres. obama to step up to the plate .

    9. as for the border security , it can never be secured 100% .. its always going to be a work in progress issue.

    10. after all only a bunch of elders from both party are going to decide immigration reform and the rest will be asked to fall in line.
  5. Another Voice's Avatar
    1. from the reports over the past several weeks the common theme seems to be that republicans are feeling really jittery about their prospects of winning the white house in 2012. there is a section of the party which wants to court hispanic vote because they realize they cannot win the swing states without them.

    Most prominent republicans decided to pass at the invitation for the republican Hispanic forum to attempt to accomplish the goal. Clearly the signaled that they are either not interest or do not want to come after this right now. Perhaps fear of primaries, don't want to get tea bagged. In the end the will stay true to the culture wars and wedge issues that characterize them, I believe.

    2. mitt romney a likely serious candidate for president in 2012 is pro business, likes immigration and is avoiding the tea party like plague these days.

    Yeah except when he him and Giuliani tried to out Tancredo each other in the last presidential primary, plenty of video evidence of that which would be used against him in the general election. He forfeited the Hispanic vote right there...

    3. there are reports that there is a messaging issue with the republicans on how to sell immigration reform to their voters. some would want them to tie it to 2012 and get there based excited to make obama a one term president.

    It will be hard to fight the extreme right on the issue and the last thing they want is to split their voter or make their base stay home come election day. They will choose their base any day, before they choose the Hispanic vote, they know they pretty much fumble the ball on that one.

    4. pres. obama is going to be promoting his jobs agenda through next weeks and has confirmed that he is going to tie immigration reform with economic recovery. brown (ma) has indicated that he will support immigration reform if its going to be helpful for the economy.

    Brown is in a liberal blue state he is looking for his own best interest and the republicans won't mind as long as they get to keep the senate seat, but Brown has already warned by tea baggers that they are not happy with him, is going to be a tough choice for him.....

    5. most of the obstruction to immigration reform came from the mccain camp to enable him get reelected for senate as he was running against an ultra conservative oponent. mccain reversed his position the same day he took oath to office and declared his support for immigration reform once border is secured.

    McCain is a wild card who knows what he will do in the end it is still about reaching the 60 votes in the Senate but it will never happen in the house not in this Congress.

    6. last quarter of 2010 was the fastest growth rate in 26yrs .. 3.2%

    Which helps the President in 2012 but immigration fight is in the Congress it's irrelevant a side from taking away the argument that immigrants take away jobs.

    7. lamar smith and steve king are the two people making noises these days but that should not be a suprise to anyone.

    8. through this oped senator john cornyn is an openly challenging pres. obama to step up to the plate .

    The know that Immigration has no chance in this congress if they defeat Obama they can claim in the 2012 election that Obama has failed again. Obama won't take the bait....

    9. as for the border security , it can never be secured 100% .. its always going to be a work in progress issue.

    They will hide behind this all day any day the American public already ate th lunch on this one and it has digested. This is a lost cause....

    10. after all only a bunch of elders from both party are going to decide immigration reform and the rest will be asked to fall in line.

    That is how the US Congress works, why do you think they have such low approval ratings, it's a dysfunctional institution and they make no secret of it...
  6. gg's Avatar
    Republicans understand immigration reform is Obama's to lose. Its in their interest to make it a non-issue before 2012. They know very well that they are better off in seeking a solution than allowing Obama to make immigration a major platform for re-election. Why does anyone think the administration is silent to all the anti-immigration bills coming out of states all around the country. I guess the strategy is to expose Republicans as anti-immigrant and right now Republicans are clearly playing into his strategy.

    The math

    Rep votes required in senate ... 10-12 allowing 4 defections on dems side

    Rep votes reqired in house .... 40-45 allowing 20 defections on dems side.
  7. George Chell's Avatar
    "I guess the strategy is to expose Republicans as anti-immigrant and right now Republicans are clearly playing into his strategy."

    As I have said, Obama needs to sit tight and let the GOP hang itself!

  8. Another Voice's Avatar
    Exactly all he has to do is let the republicans do the talking and so far the have....Obama will sell the 2012 re-election as give me another shot and elect some dems to help me and we can do Immigration. He will be talking about it to provoke the republicans and antis and show the pro-immigration community that he is the only shot at it. He can point out at the other folks and say look at what they are saying.....
  9. Another Voice's Avatar
    The birthright citizenship issue will definitely motivate Hispanics, and what other choice do they have but go back to the President, there is no other alternative for them...Even the Hispanic Republicans in the house have aligned themselves with their party and come out against immigration and in favor of enforcement only. These folks can't even be used by republicans to attract the vote, even if the just wanted to get the 40% that president Bush got...
  10. gg's Avatar
    tri-valley - what happened ?

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/7393658.cms?prtpage=1




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