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Greg Siskind on Immigration Law and Policy

BENNETT LEANING YES ON DREAM; PRIOR NO

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HuffPost Hill reports on how some of the middle of the roads are planning to vote Thursday on DREAM in the Senate:


REID FILES CLOTURE ON DREAM ACT - The bill to create a pathway to citizenship for the children of undocumented immigrants who either attend college or enlist in the military will get a vote Thursday. One fence sitter, Democrat Mark Pryor, will courageously oppose the the bill because it ain't popular in Arkansas. "I will probably be against the DREAM Act, probably on both [cloture and final passage]," Pryor told reporters in the Capitol today. "For one thing, it's not very popular in my state, but I have concerns on it on policy grounds. I'm more concerned about the education side of it than the military side." DREAM backers are confident they have Richard Lugar and Bob Bennett's vote, and are still going after Republicans George LeMieux, Susan Collins, Olympia Snowe, Scott Brown, John Ensign, John Cornyn and Kay Bailey Hutchison. Democrats leaning no include Max Baucus, Jon Tester, Ben Nelson, Kent Conrad and Joe Manchin. Maria Cantwell, Barbara Boxer and Michael Bennet spoke out in favor the bill during the meeting. Cantwell, who hadn't been outspoken on the issue to date, let it go. "Maria always is passionate. She's always great," Mark Udall summed it up to HuffPost Hill.

@jaxsun Dem Senate source: "Bennet and Boxer just told the Caucus they wouldn't be in that room right now if it weren't for Hispanic voters"

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  1. Jack's Avatar
    "Bennet and Boxer just told the Caucus they wouldn't be in that room right now if it weren't for Hispanic voters"

    At least they're admitting why they support it--recompense and as a bonus, the creation of more voters to vote for them! As for policy considerations, who cares?
  2. USC's Avatar
    "DREAM backers are confident they have Richard Lugar and Bob Bennett's vote, and are still going after Republicans George LeMieux, Susan Collins, Olympia Snowe, Scott Brown, John Ensign, John Cornyn and Kay Bailey Hutchison."

    Can leader responds:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/01/gop-obstruction-senate-bills_n_790208.html

    "Senate Republicans intend to block action on virtually all Democratic-backed legislation unrelated to tax cuts and government spending in the current postelection session of Congress, officials said Tuesday, adding that the leadership has quietly collected signatures on a letter pledging to carry out the strategy.

    If carried out, it would doom Democratic-backed attempts to .............. give legal status to young illegal immigrants who join the military or attend college."

    "Officials who disclosed the new Republican maneuver did so on condition of anonymity, saying they were not authorized to discuss it.

    It was not known how many of the Senate's 42 (sic) Republicans had signed the draft letter, which the leadership intends to make public quickly.

    Senate Democrats need 60 votes to overcome any delaying tactics, meaning they could be thwarted if 41 Republicans join in the commitment."




  3. USC's Avatar
    42 Cans it is, as Mark Kirk of Illinois has been seated.
  4. USC's Avatar
    "Republicans George LeMieux, Susan Collins, Olympia Snowe, Scott Brown, John Ensign, John Cornyn and Kay Bailey Hutchison."

    Scott Brown & George LeMieus are both NO.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1110/45761.html

    "There are ways to stop illegal immigration," said Lemieux, who recently toured the Arizona-Mexico border with Minority Whip Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.). "If we could do a significant border security measure, then I'd be willing to talk about the situation of these kids who are brought here through no fault of their own. But until we do that, I'm not supportive."

    Gail Gitcho, a spokeswoman for Brown, indicated his opposition: "Senator Brown is opposed to illegal immigration and is opposed to amnesty. The DREAM Act is backdoor amnesty. Senator Brown believes that reforms should be made to streamline the process for those who are seeking citizenship through the legal-and-proper channels."






  5. USC's Avatar
    Kay Bailey Hutchison also NO.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/01/us/politics/01immig.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

    "At the San Antonio offices of Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, 15 protesters supporting the bill were arrested Monday night, charged with trespassing. In a statement, Ms. Hutchison, a Republican, said that she had asked that the students be escorted from her office without arrests, but that they had resisted.

    Ms. Hutchison does not support the student bill in its current form, the statement said."



  6. My 2 cents's Avatar
    Why don't the Cans who talk about being pro on legal immigration bring some reform for the EB & FB category? The whole immigration issue is a joke. They would care to do something about unless it affects the entitlement funding. With the current scenario an EB3 applicant in his late 30's could still be on H1B or EAD when he turns 62/65. Though age eligible he won't qualify for Medicare as one has to be USC or LPR to qualify. If this issue can be fought in federal courts & has a good chance, then the Congress would be clamoring to fix the EB category. I am no legal expert so I would let others comment if this is a viable lawsuit.
  7. Michael's Avatar
    Reid has filed a new version of the Dream Act. It will require a ten year waiting period before a person can become a LPR.
  8. Another Voice's Avatar
    "Why don't the Cans who talk about being pro on legal immigration bring some reform for the EB & FB category?"

    Because they are not really pro anything immigration, they just say that not to sound racist or anti-immigrant flat out....If they were pro-legal immigration they would have made proposals already.
  9. George Chell's Avatar
    "Because they are not really pro anything immigration, they just say that not to sound racist or anti-immigrant flat out....If they were pro-legal immigration they would have made proposals already."

    As I have said time and again, the experience from the UK and Australia suggests that if there were not illegal immigrants, they would try to curb legal immigration, particularly non-white immigration. In the UK, racists led by Cameron and David Davids succeeded, while in Australia Abbott and company failed. Those two countries give us a preview of what will happen to legal immigration if we did not have an illegal immigrant problem.

  10. George Chell's Avatar
    "Gail Gitcho, a spokeswoman for Brown, indicated his opposition: "Senator Brown is opposed to illegal immigration and is opposed to amnesty. The DREAM Act is backdoor amnesty. Senator Brown believes that reforms should be made to streamline the process for those who are seeking citizenship through the legal-and-proper channels.""

    Scott Brown has two years left in his term. An Obama blowout in MA will bury him whether he is for or against the bill.

  11. Legal and no longer waiting's Avatar
    "Why don't the Cans who talk about being pro on legal immigration bring some reform for the EB & FB category?"

    Because they don't want us here.
  12. USC's Avatar
    BREAKING NEWS........The DREAM dims:

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1210/45796.html


    "Senate Republicans are vowing to block all legislative business until Democrats hold votes on bills to extend the Bush-era tax cuts and keep the government funded through the new year.

    In a letter signed by all 42 Republicans, Republicans warn they will filibuster any attempt to bring forward any bill besides those two measures."



  13. Sam's Avatar
    My kid is legally present here. We are waiting for the past 8 years for GC. Looks like in order to get GC for my kid through Dream act, the only way is to convert his status from legal to illegal.

    What is the USCIS immigration form to do that conversion?

  14. Legal and no longer waiting's Avatar
    Sam, if you think these kids are having a red carpet rolled out in front of them, you need to read the DREAM Act. Do you really what your kid to be in conditional immigrant status for 10 more years (assuming its processing would not take another couple of years)?
  15. SG's Avatar
    waiting 10 yrs and then 3 yrs for legal residency doesn't mean going to the back of the line. With current backlogs increasing every day, the back of the line will be about 40 yrs. So yaa in a sense the 10 yr conditional fluff is still amnesty, because that way students will still get their GCs with the next 10-12 yrs, while legal will still be waiting in line.
    Nice job!
  16. Legal and no longer waiting's Avatar
    Well, if you are OK with that, then your kids just need to make a quick trip to Mexico, and cross the border back on foot through the desert. They must do it before the DREAM act is passed, and then wait for their fate while in the US illegally, possibly, wihtout ever being eligible for a green card. Piece of cake.
  17. Another Voice's Avatar
    "So yaa in a sense the 10 yr conditional fluff is still amnesty, because that way students will still get their GCs with the next 10-12 yrs, while legal will still be waiting in line.
    Nice job!"

    You are barking at the wrong tree, if your cause is soooo right then why aren't republicans, chamber of commerce, technology and healthcare companies and others lobbying for Legal Immigration reform... The people that support DREAM are not standing in your way, they are fighting for their cause, can't be mad at them for trying.....they want what you want, however they can get it.
  18. SG's Avatar
    @Another Voice
    chamber of commerce and tech companies (eg: mayor bloomberg, gates and many more) and healthcare companies have lobbied for legal immigration, but Dems are pro-union, and want the hispanic votes. In fact repubs are pro-legal immigration and fair trade and look at how legal immigration helps the economy. In fact it was Bush who added the 50K visa for nurses and PT's, dems didn't. I have many articles that I can put up. Government studies have shown the need for nurses and Pt's and the forthcoming shortage, not any private firm to grab headlines.
    And please do not give me an example of a nurse or a PT who is 60 yrs old and wants to sit on the couch and say there is no job. There are jobs. I know. If you only concentrate at bigger metro cities, of course there will be competition, irrespective of the economy. Drive 10 miles outside the city, you will find healthcare jobs lying vacant at smaller clinics and healthcenters.
    In sum, repubs are not fools to give a green signal now for legal immigration reform in the lame duck session. I can bet you, that the day dems say they want to work with repubs to fix the legal immigration first, they will join. but not in the lame duck session. its a carrot that repubs won;t fall for until the new congress comes in.
    Cheers,
  19. Another Voice's Avatar
    "In sum, repubs are not fools to give a green signal now for legal immigration reform in the lame duck session. I can bet you, that the day dems say they want to work with repubs to fix the legal immigration first, they will join. but not in the lame duck session. its a carrot that repubs won;t fall for until the new congress comes in.
    Cheers,"

    There you have it then... you have your day coming with the republicans, we shall see if they are such of good friends of the immigrants, I hope you are right....
  20. George Chell's Avatar
    "In sum, repubs are not fools to give a green signal now for legal immigration reform in the lame duck session. I can bet you, that the day dems say they want to work with repubs to fix the legal immigration first, they will join. but not in the lame duck session. its a carrot that repubs won;t fall for until the new congress comes in.
    Cheers,"

    Many Republicans (not the likes of Lugar or Alexander) are not for any immigration. They want to maintain the status quo in this country...keep America white even if jobs go abroad. This is the philosophy of FAIR and CIS as well. If we did not have an illegal immigration problem they will try and curtail legal immigration. Their conservative brothers and sister just did that in the UK...they put a cap on skilled migrants and while the US allows a large number of UK immigrants to enter the country and allows them to take jobs in the entertainment industry, the UK does not reciprocate. They estimate that at most 1,000 US citizens will be allowed into the UK this year for work. Now, Australians would have done the same thing if the Liberal-National coalition would have taken power..fortunately for them it did not. As a result, the status quo of high levels of legal skilled immigration has been maintained despite hue and cry from the greedy Aussie citizens who want a one way street on migration..ie., them being allowed to work in Asia but not allowing the Asians to move into their neighborhood or work there. UK has just given has all the opportunity to take UK jobs and move them into the US. Will the US take advantage of the UK give away and lure UK jobs to the US by increasing skilled migrants? i.e., will the likes of Jeff Sessions, Rene Ellmers and Michelle Bachman come out of their alter or white skin worshipping paganism and do what the country needs? I very much doubt it. As in the past we will cede the jobs to Singapore, Australia, China and Hong Kong, and instead ask for draconian cuts in social security when tax revenues decline! Such is the power of white skin worship among the tea partiers.
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