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CRIST: IMMIGRATION REFORM NEEDED TO SAVE SOCIAL SECURITY

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I've blogged about this subject before and it's nice to see a politician campaigning on this. And in Florida, this is a big deal given the large senior population. From Huffington Post:



Studies show that 11-14 million people are in the country as non-citizens, and if we are willing to have a thoughtful, reasonable pathway to citizenship -- earning citizenship -- then those 11-14 million people can become productive, participating members of the American economy, paying the payroll taxes, helping Social Security going forward, and making America stronger financially," Crist told The Huffington Post in an interview on Friday. [...]


Crist disputed the claim that there is a Social Security "crisis," noting that it is projected to be solvent until 2037 or 2041. Nevertheless, bringing more immigrants into the system would, according to Crist, extend that even further. "I think that would be a responsible way to approach it going forward and realizing that number one, we hope the economy continues to improve -- certainly that's important," he said. "And number two, by the time you get to 2037 or 2041, when expected problems may occur, you've already found a solution by increasing the number of citizens that are paying into Social Security, in a legal way." He added that he would "absolutely" push legislation on this issue if he is elected to the Senate.


 


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  1. George Chell's Avatar
    As I said before there are three ways of solving the deficit problem: cut spending, increase taxes, create/bring jobs in this (to this) country...Singapore brings in loads of multinationals. Anticipating caps on skilled migration in the UK, Singapore convinced Rolls Royce to move its Marine HQ to that country, and is now trying to convince the entire organization to move...why are we not doing this? Based on what I have seen of Alan Simpson's background, I think he knew very well that in a global economy tightening immigration rules will lead to export of jobs of abroad..but he proposed it anyway. His motive was and is sinister...destroy social security...I think that is the motive of Charles Grassley as well..and Dick "Dichead" Durbin and Bernie "the Braindead" Sanders are unwilling and ignorant accomplices. Going to some campaign websites some teapartiers say they support expanding legal immigration...Linda MacMahon and Ken Buck are examples. However, most will try to curb legal migration including migration of people with exceptional ability if illegal immigration is not an issue...among them Sharon Angle and Ron Johnson...I cannot figure out Mark Kirk. The key is to get Harry Reid re-elected (as much as I dont like him) and the Dems holding on to majority. You are actually better off having Mitch "follow the money" McConnell over Dick Durbin as the majority leader although Jeff "the racist" Sessions will be a major problem for even legal immigration advocates.
  2. George Chell's Avatar
    Canadian equivalent of the Center for Immigration Studies set up...

    http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/lobby+group+aims+stir+serious+debate+immigration+levels/3587125/story.html

    and these guys as usual have racist mindsets.
  3. Another Voice's Avatar
    This known fact will be conveniently ignored during this election season. But if there are so called "deficit hawks" Crist makes a valid point that won't be able to be ignored for much longer. Specially legal immigrants that would pay at higher tax brackets but low skilled immigrants that in volume would pay a big share as well.
  4. George Chell's Avatar
    "Specially legal immigrants that would pay at higher tax brackets but low skilled immigrants that in volume would pay a big share as well."

    Antis such as FAIR and CIS are so racist and bigoted that they would rather destroy social security. They are so bigoted that they want to reduce foreign students and destroy higher education at a time when they are not campaigning against budget cuts for American students! Bigotry runs in every vein in their bodies!
  5. Another Voice's Avatar
    "Bigotry runs in every vein in their bodies!" Sad to say that through out history America has not learned that lesson.... just bash the next group with the same old tricks and arguments.
  6. F's Avatar
    I am not sure what Anchor baby (Not sure if he was born here or not )candidate Marco Rubio has to say about the proposal.
  7. My 2 cents's Avatar
    I hope the SS goes belly up before that estimation of 2037, the way the economy is with the high unemployment it could go bust 10 yrs earlier.
  8. USC's Avatar
    The way the Social Security system is structured it is a Ponzi scheme. If the govie were Madoff they would be in prison.

    It needs to be re-structured so that folks that pay into it get their inflation adjusted principal back plus an inflation adjusted rate of interest. IOW, contributions should be invested in TRIPS and redeemed by the tax payer when they become 65 (the change to 67 constitutes the govie breaking its promise to people who were already contributing in the 1970s).
  9. George Chell's Avatar
    "I am not sure what Anchor baby (Not sure if he was born here or not )candidate Marco Rubio has to say about the proposal."

    Many in the GOP would like to declare Obama an anchor baby as he was born to a foreign father although his mother was American.

  10. USC's Avatar
    Sorry, typo please read TIPS instead of TRIPS.
  11. Jack's Avatar
    "What would actually most benefit the system is the status quo, in fact. Social Security actuaries estimate that in 2007, two-thirds of undocumented workers, or 5.6 million people, were paying into the system, while very few were receiving any benefits. "If for example we had not had other-than-legal immigrants in the country over the past, then these numbers suggest that we would have entered persistent shortfall of tax revenue to cover [payouts] starting [in] 2009, or six years earlier than estimated under the 2010 Trustees Report," said Stephen C. Goss, the chief actuary of the Social Security Administration."

    Less than a month ago Greg posted an article by Edward Schumacher-Matos touting the above. You can't have it both ways--if you grant amnesty, you lose the subsidy. The majority of the people granted amnesty will also be eligible to receive benefits at a higher earnings replacement rate than the system as a whole, thus making the system LESS sound not to mention the loss of the subsidy.

    Similarly, studies show that the net economic benefit of illegal immigration is due to the fact that they are paid less than they would be if they were legal. Legalization negates that benefit. Ironically, the people who like to tout the benefits created by illegal immigration want to grant amnesty which would eliminate the benefit.
  12. F's Avatar
    "Many in the GOP would like to declare Obama an anchor baby as he was born to a foreign father although his mother was American."

    They would hold signs saying Obama is an illegal Alien. I saw that sign somewhere on one of the news websites.

    http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/obama-id-rather-be-a-really-good-one-term-president-than-a-mediocre-two-term-president-video/blog-246539/?page=4

  13. My 2 cents's Avatar
    It's off topic, but makes an interesting read, in one of the earlier blogs I had mentioned US is losing its influence in the world. This article states the same.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/10-signs-the-us-is-losing-its-influence-in-the-western-hemisphere-535456.html?tickers=eem,ewz,fxi,eeb,jjm,^dji,xle
  14. Mara 's Avatar
    This is happing right now and we are in the same situation, the illegal are working with a fake social security and on the company payrolls, the worse thing about this is that the government allows so many people rip off the systems, letting them get the section 8 while they are living with their companions, both working under the table with a fake social security, some all them have their house on the companions name and have the housing department paying for their mortgage, too many people getting social security while working under the table again with a fake social security or when a person do no need to work they work some else social security, getting food stamps have the situation, and the other good one is unemployment, it is very wear that some people are the unemploymen collecting unemployemnt for two years because they can find a job, but their reason is because most of them do not want to do anything not even want to go a training or something to improve their live and they say that they are not going to work for
    $7.50 because is not enough money but they collect the unemployment checks and also work under the table or even better they go back to their country for long vacations while they some one collecting for their check and sending the money for them to enjoy their vacation, the congree should do something about all this problems and these people, I am an hispanic lady we sadly will say most of my people come here and rip off the systems, this great systems that are not working any more for people that do not care and do not appreaciate the great opportunities that this country is gviving us instead of this why the governement instead of pay for this rediculous systems do not pay the schools of the middle classes and working class children to go to a good school, they getting in debt with student loans becuase that 's the only way they can afford to send their children to school is not fear that some one has to do this when they want to do the right things and been productive for the economy and the society of the United States but instead the government gives the money to people to stay home, playing Xbox all day, taking 3 or 4 months vacation and expecting to govemrent to support them for the rest of their live, while the working class is struglling to send their children to school, the problems is not the illegal immigrations are the legals and theprople that are working for the government that are not taking care the money of the working class whichi is the one whose suppport the economy.
  15. Legal and no longer waiting's Avatar
    "Similarly, studies show that the net economic benefit of illegal immigration is due to the fact that they are paid less than they would be if they were legal. Legalization negates that benefit. "

    You mean that if people dutifully paid into the system for years , they will be able to get something back, and Americans would not be able just to take their contributions like it is a highway robbery?! What an outrage! I always stated that Jack and other antis are fine with illegal immigration, they are not fine with legal immigration (i.e. legalization) - because you have to give this people something back, and that is of course wrong.
  16. Legal and no longer waiting's Avatar
    There was a great comment I have seen in some of immigration news discussions:

    "No amnesty. We need slaves!"

    This pretty much sums up Jack's position.
  17. George Chell's Avatar
    There are three ways to save social security..cut benefits, raise the payroll taxes or bring jobs from abroad and keep them here now that US employees dont want to hire in this country and I would prefer the third option. If more immigration is the only way we save social security, so be it!
  18. USC's Avatar
    "working under the table with a fake social security"

    This is great example of your typical card carrying Tea Party member. Illiterate, incoherent, bigoted, ignorant and unable to string together a single sentence in the English language. Yet they want to outlaw all other languages! Thank you for taking your mask off for all to see.
  19. LFWF's Avatar
    " too many people getting social security while working under the table again with a fake social security"

    At the very least, please get your basics right.
    No one can "get" SS with a "fake social security". You can only pay into the system with a number that does not match your name, but never claim any benefits.Ergo, I guess they are paying for YOUR SS benefits. You are free to forgo all SS benefits since they come from "too many people" you do not approve of!
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