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SCHUMER ASKS ARIZONA GOVERNOR TO DELAY LAW FOR A YEAR

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Senate Immigration Subcommittee Chairman Charles Schumer (D-NY) has asked Arizona Governor Jan Brewer to delay implementing SB1070 for a year to give Congress time to pass an immigration reform bill that would provide the border security being demanded.

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  1. Kenzo's Avatar
    Yeah, RIP, CIR!
  2. George Chell's Avatar
    No! May its soul rest in peace! It may not be resurrected until Easter after jobs have mostly moved out of the country!
  3. My 2 cents's Avatar
    Is Schumer out of his mind? He doesn't even have all the 59 votes rounded up. Try to get that first. The Dems are going to lose big time in November.
  4. Jim's Avatar
    Just get CIR done ASAP. That will make the AZ law and other copy-cat laws moot.

    They were forced to do it alone because they are fed up waiting for the Feds to do their job. The AZ Governor will certainly not do what Schumer is requesting.

    Only way is enacting CIR. If you can't then it's your fault why they have to do such things. It should be obvious by now that they want to force the fed to do something ASAP.

  5. John's Avatar
    And Gov Brewer has declined, what was Sen Schumer thinking LOL
  6. Another Voice's Avatar
    This is just political posturing by the dems.... aparently they are talking to Scott Brown and the senator from Alaska on the republican side. Doubtful that there could be something done unless is the November strategy in the lame duck session of congress.
  7. Geroge Chell's Avatar
    "And Gov Brewer has declined, what was Sen Schumer thinking LOL."

    To get the Hispanics to vote...without the Arizona law and CIR, Guitterez was asking Hispanics to stay home...now he is asking them to come out and vote whether there is CIR or not...if the Hispanics know what is good for them!

  8. Legal and no longer waiting's Avatar
    "That will make the AZ law and other copy-cat laws moot."

    I don't think it does. Now you have a large population of people in the process of legalization, and their documents will be very short of perfect for a while. It may take them up to a year to collect all the evidence, get legal advice, and apply for the program. Even after that point, it is not clear what the police will accept as proper evidence of legal status - as you can see from the case of Shusterman's clients, even CBP (!) officers don't understand that a pending I-485 receipt and an EAD are proofs of authorized presence.

    And the last one. It is very unlikely that CIR will stop future illegal immigration. For example, someone who crossed the border illegally after a deportation (and how else they could?), and got deported again is banned for life. CIR is not going to help this person, and if s/he has close relatives in the US, I would not be surprised if this person ends up crossing illegally again. The next most common scenario - if the CIR does not have better provisions for bringing foreign labor legally, the illegal immigration will continue.
  9. George Chell's Avatar
    "And the last one. It is very unlikely that CIR will stop future illegal immigration. For example, someone who crossed the border illegally after a deportation (and how else they could?), and got deported again is banned for life. CIR is not going to help this person, and if s/he has close relatives in the US, I would not be surprised if this person ends up crossing illegally again. The next most common scenario - if the CIR does not have better provisions for bringing foreign labor legally, the illegal immigration will continue."

    Singapore, which has a reputation of being a police state, with stiff penalties against drug, firearms and human traffickers cannot stop illegals. Are the Americans, especially those living in Arizona, so deluded that they think they will be able to stop illegal immigration...

    http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/singapore/2009/04/18/204752/Singapore-coast.htm

    http://www.todayonline.com/Singapore/EDC100129-0000083/He-helped-smuggle-in-illegal-immigrants

  10. Another Voice's Avatar
    "And the last one. It is very unlikely that CIR will stop future illegal immigration. For example, someone who crossed the border illegally after a deportation (and how else they could?), and got deported again is banned for life. CIR is not going to help this person, and if s/he has close relatives in the US, I would not be surprised if this person ends up crossing illegally again. The next most common scenario - if the CIR does not have better provisions for bringing foreign labor legally, the illegal immigration will continue."

    I think you have a valid point there however I believe if CIR were to accomplish laying down the clear rules of the game that allow for High skill and low skill immigrants to come her legally, combined with some sort of supply and demand mechanism for workers you can make a significant impact and decrease it to the point that the enforcement effort at the border can just focus on the drug dealers, the gun runners and the other folks... It will significantly decrease, that in combination with better documentation for the documents but I must say forgers are pretty high-tech these days!!
  11. Another Voice's Avatar
    "Singapore, which has a reputation of being a police state, with stiff penalties against drug, firearms and human traffickers cannot stop illegals. Are the Americans, especially those living in Arizona, so deluded that they think they will be able to stop illegal immigration..."

    People in AZ keep saying that the violence is out of hand and that it is the main reason they need this law. However they never address the point that the US is the biggest illegal drug market,(90% of the cocaine trade, we are 5% of the world population) in the world and that the drug dollars from the US consumer buys guns for the drug lords that have escalated drug violence across the border. CNN had a special and the ATF said that the vast majority of guns confiscated in Mexico in the hands of drug lords came from AZ gun shows and gun shops, which has very lax gun laws. These folks are their own worst enemies, immigrants are just an easy scape goat!!!
  12. Geroge Chell's Avatar
    "People in AZ keep saying that the violence is out of hand and that it is the main reason they need this law. However they never address the point that the US is the biggest illegal drug market,(90% of the cocaine trade, we are 5% of the world population) in the world and that the drug dollars from the US consumer buys guns for the drug lords that have escalated drug violence across the border. CNN had a special and the ATF said that the vast majority of guns confiscated in Mexico in the hands of drug lords came from AZ gun shows and gun shops, which has very lax gun laws. These folks are their own worst enemies, immigrants are just an easy scape goat!!!"

    One big difference..the proportion of racists, skin color worshippers, bigots and xenophobes in the Singapore population is insignificant, whereas among the Arizona whites, I bet it is a lot higher than at least 20%...perhaps as high as 50%. The neice of one of my ex-Singapore bosses (she is Chinese and 27 years old) told me that only way to deal with white racists is to flaunt your white husband..and that is what she does with racist white Aussie and South African women both at home and in Australia.

  13. e's Avatar
    and trhe asnwer is NO.
  14. Jim's Avatar
    "I think you have a valid point there however I believe if CIR were to accomplish laying down the clear rules of the game that allow for High skill and low skill immigrants to come her legally, combined with some sort of supply and demand mechanism for workers you can make a significant impact and decrease it to the point that the enforcement effort at the border can just focus on the drug dealers, the gun runners and the other folks... It will significantly decrease, that in combination with better documentation for the documents but I must say forgers are pretty high-tech these days!!"

    That's what I am thinking as well!!

    But as far as forgers goes, that's what the fraud-proof biometric social security cards as proof of employment purposes are for. As I keep reading about it, it's not really a national ID to the likes of other countries has done it. Information on that secured biometric SS card would not be on any database so how could it even be called a national ID. It's basically just a hi-tech, fraud-proof SS card with biometrics. Period. There's no big brother.

    By the way, India is going to have a national ID soon and it looks like it's going to be just like how other countries like the UK has done their national ID. If they can do it for their 1.2 billion people with majority of it 15 years and above, the US can certainly do it for it's 300 million population. No excuses that it can't be done.

    http://www.nowpublic.com/world/indias-census-count-all-1-2b-people-national-i-d-cards
  15. Legal and no longer waiting's Avatar
    "People in AZ keep saying that the violence is out of hand and that it is the main reason they need this law"

    And they are sooooo wrong. Phoenix (along with El Paso, San Diego, and San Antonio) has been on the list of top citiies with lowest crime rate for years. Here is what Bill Maher said on his show yesterday:
    "All this anger that we see aimed at the Mexican underclass might be more understandable if illegals came here with a bad attitude and sent the crime rate soaring -- but they don't. The Justice Department says violent crime in Arizona is at its lowest point since 1971. Property crime is at its lowest since 1966. There is no problem. There's only dicks and the politicians who pander to them."
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-maher/new-rule-this-mothers-day_b_568696.html
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