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ARIZONA AG: BILL HAS SERIOUS PROBLEMS

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From the Arizona Star:

Attorney General Terry Goddard said anti-illegal-immigrant legislation awaiting final
Senate action is 'troubling.'

Goddard, speaking last week, also said SB 1070 may have 'civil-rights implications' due to provisions that could be seen as an excuse to stop and question Hispanics.

But Goddard, a Democratic contender for governor, stopped short of saying the measure is illegal, either because of the civil-rights issues or the possibility that it may intrude on the exclusive right of the federal government to deal with immigration.

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  1. Jim's Avatar
    I know that this bill is simply wrong but sometimes I say to myself that maybe they should just go ahead and try it so that they know how AZ as a State will fail. The first State to fail!!

  2. Jim's Avatar
    "I know that this bill is simply wrong but sometimes I say to myself that maybe they should just go ahead and try it so that they know how AZ as a State will fail. The first State to fail!!"

    That way no other State will ever try doing something similar and this would be one miserable costly experiment. Then they will have the nerve to ask the Federal Gov't for bailout.

    Let's see if the AZ Governor signs it or vetoes it within 5 days.
  3. George Chell's Avatar
    "That way no other State will ever try doing something similar and this would be one miserable costly experiment. Then they will have the nerve to ask the Federal Gov't for bailout."

    The Feds should say no money!
  4. Another Voice's Avatar
    This law is not going anywhere but the AG is not going to let his political enemies use his position against him. Smart man he will use this against them once it falls flat on its face!!!
  5. Jose Garcia's Avatar
    One aspect of the law that few people are commenting is; how are local police officers going to be able to determine if somebody on a temporary visa has violated his or her status? For example, a student on an F-1 Visa, is he supposed to have a copy of the courses he or she has registered for (assuming college student) in order to prove that they are taking a full course of studies? With so many visas having so many specific requirements how is a local police officer going to be trained to be able to adjudicate on the spot if somebody is "legal" or "illegal?
  6. Jim's Avatar
    "One aspect of the law that few people are commenting is; how are local police officers going to be able to determine if somebody on a temporary visa has violated his or her status? For example, a student on an F-1 Visa, is he supposed to have a copy of the courses he or she has registered for (assuming college student) in order to prove that they are taking a full course of studies? With so many visas having so many specific requirements how is a local police officer going to be trained to be able to adjudicate on the spot if somebody is "legal" or "illegal?"

    Short answer is they won't. It's going to be the wild, wild west in AZ.

    What's going to happen in AZ would be something similar to this (probably even worse since they can cite a law now if and when it is signed):

    http://blogs.ilw.com/carlshusterman/2010/02/an-illegal-checkpoint-stop-a-lawyers-perspective.html


  7. My 2 cents's Avatar
    Jim, I read that article when it first came out & am sure incidents like those will be commonplace in AZ.
  8. Legal and no longer waiting's Avatar
    Jose, you raise a very fair question. 15 years ago I was taking a bus from San Antotio, and immigration agents (who supposedly know the difference between legal and illegal) stopped the bus and asked every non-citizen to show documents. Incidentally, I had entered the US by air THE DAY BEFORE from a vacation in Mexico, and I had my passport and I-94 stamped as a student. You WOULD NOT BELIEVE how many questions they asked me and how many additional documents they wanted to look at. I was very disgusted - here is my passport and I-94, which were just stamped with all admission stamps, and why in the world I need to prove anything alse? Interestingly enough, I could have just pretended to be asleep, and they would have never touched me since I am white (as in "blonde and pretty").
  9. Legal and no longer waiting's Avatar
    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/04/21/white-house-slams-latest-birther-move-2/?fbid=hOKjVrOQsrR

    White House aides are scoffing at a move in the Arizona legislature to force President Obama to show his birth certificate to get on the state's ballot in 2012 for his likely re-election battle.

    AZ legislature just coughted up another dose of kah-ray-zee!
  10. Jim's Avatar
    "White House aides are scoffing at a move in the Arizona legislature to force President Obama to show his birth certificate to get on the state's ballot in 2012 for his likely re-election battle.

    AZ legislature just coughted up another dose of kah-ray-zee! "

    What the !? No wonder McCain is pandering to them now.
    If news like this keeps coming out and if the Governor signs their bill I bet you their long-term survivability is going to be in question. Short-term, they will probably survive since trigger-happy crazies and some TEA partiers will actually be choosing to move there. Over-time, they will realize AZ would be going back to becoming a dust-bin it was before.

  11. Legal_Alien_from_Roswel's Avatar
    I have a feeling that the AZ AG BILL debacle might actually help push CIR2010, Obama & Co will need to atleast push CIR into the House and Senate just to balance out the uber hostile AZ bill, if they don't, then they're toast, as no Hispanic will vote in Nov.

    Maybe this Bill is the straw that broke the camels back
  12. Jim's Avatar
    "I have a feeling that the AZ AG BILL debacle might actually help push CIR2010, Obama & Co will need to atleast push CIR into the House and Senate just to balance out the uber hostile AZ bill, if they don't, then they're toast, as no Hispanic will vote in Nov.

    Maybe this Bill is the straw that broke the camels back"

    We have the same analysis.
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