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Greg Siskind on Immigration Law and Policy

THE NOVEMBER STRATEGY

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New Jersey Democratic Senator Robert Menendez discusses why immigration reform might be best left to a post-election vote.

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  1. Jim's Avatar
    I still think that the strategy of introducing and debating it discussed in a previous post is still the best thing to do. It's win-win for everyone.

    Dems get to keep their promise. The GOP gets painted further as the party of 'no' and not a friend of Latinos/Hispanics if they choose to still oppose it.

    If CIR fails. There is now reason to put in piece-meal legislations immediately after CIR.

    Almost everyone wins. Actually, everyone wins if the GOP just choose to just cooperate and pass it w/c is of course possible but doubtful.

  2. Dave Bennion's Avatar
    Now the timeline is November. When that fails, it'll be 2011. Then 2012.

    A sage once said, fool me once, shame on you. Fool me - you can't get fooled again.

    How often does the Dem leadership think we will fall for this?

    Pass the Dream Act. Pass it now.
  3. Adi's Avatar
    time will never be right for immigration. Unemployment will remain high for very long time (5-10yrs). Its unlikely that democrats will ever enjoy such majority. Like Jim says, get it to vote and then move forward.
  4. My 2 cents's Avatar
    I do not expect to see a Senate bill this year. They will drag this to 2012 so the Latinos can be fooled another time. Are people like Menendez & Gutirezz dumb??? The Hispanic caucus was up in arms in previous years when piecemeal legislation was introduced, blocked debate etc. in the House. Where are they now??
  5. beppe's Avatar
    Greg, in your opinion what are the chances of reimplementing the 245(i)due to the fact that CIR will not even by introducted in the senate?
  6. Greg Siskind's Avatar
    I have not heard any discussion of 245i but if CIR goes down, who knows?
  7. USC's Avatar
    INS has just launched a blog and ask readers to post their comments. Please feel free to let them know what a great job they are doing:

    http://www.uscis.gov/blog/2010/03/uscis-welcomes-you-to-beacon.html

    http://www.uscis.gov/blog/2010/03/visa-numbers.html

  8. beppe's Avatar
    Hi Greg,
    thank you for your answer.
    I think that the CIR is already down for this year.
  9. My 2 cents's Avatar
    Inaction on the immigration front along with the voter rage on HCR could turn out to be devastating for Obama & the Dems in November. CIR is dead even before being debated.
  10. LFWF's Avatar
    If "anger over inaction on CIR" causes supporters to stay away, it will amount to cutting their noses to spite their face. They will face the consequences of that action.

    I want CIR as much as anyone, but I cannot ignore reality. Just wanting something is not reason enough. Instead of complaining Obama, go out and teach CIR opponents a lesson in November. That would do far more. I have no doubt the president wants CIR. You are entitled to your opinion.
  11. Jim's Avatar
    I really do not understand why the GOP is still opposing CIR.

    A lot of former Bush Administration officials from Karl Rove, Condy Rice and G.W. Bush himself said that it was one of their mistakes and that keeping on opposing it is suicidal and will make their party be a minority party for a long time.

    The head of the tea party previously announced that he is pro-immigration reform. Lou Dobbs back-tracked everything he said while in CNN and is now willing to compromise as he realize the CIR is the only way to go. Bill O'Reilly is neutral, and pro-national ID. No word from Hannity. And who still listens to Glenn Beck and still thinks that what all he is saying is simply for ratings or thinks he is actually serious with everything he says?

    Rush Limbaugh is also quite quiet. Maybe still licking his wounds after HCR passed.

    So, what's holding them off?

  12. My 2 cents's Avatar
    LWLF,

    There is never a right time for CIR they need to have the political will to take this issue. When was the last time we had any meaningful immigration legislation by either the Dems or Cans. I can think of the Scedule A legislation which was passed in 2005 under Bush, that was a bandaid approach to the nursing shortage.

    They want to get the federal/state/city taxes, SS & Medicare taxes from the EB workers & wish they leave the country frustrated with the backlogs, it's a win win for the Fed. Why can't they forgo the SS, medicare taxes for EB till one get the EAD/GC.
  13. Sid's Avatar
    "I really do not understand why the GOP is still opposing CIR.

    A lot of former Bush Administration officials from Karl Rove, Condy Rice and G.W. Bush himself said that it was one of their mistakes and that keeping on opposing it is suicidal and will make their party be a minority party for a long time."

    Maybe they are waiting for the Nov elections to decide whether they can win seats in spite of their opposition to legalization. If they are able to make significant gains, their position on immigration probably doesn't matter in the short term.
  14. Another Voice's Avatar
    If the dems lose big in Nov then this "November strategy" may have a shot in order to preserve Obama's chances on 2012, If the republicans make significant gains in November their strategy of "NO" to Obama on everything has paid off and there is no need to cooperate with Obama, therefore CIR will be truly dead for the rest of the term..
  15. George Chell's Avatar
    "If the dems lose big in Nov then this "November strategy" may have a shot in order to preserve Obama's chances on 2012, If the republicans make significant gains in November their strategy of "NO" to Obama on everything has paid off and there is no need to cooperate with Obama, therefore CIR will be truly dead for the rest of the term."

    Depends on who wins. McCain has to absolutely beat Hayworth in the AZ primary in August.

  16. Another Voice's Avatar
    "Depends on who wins. McCain has to absolutely beat Hayworth in the AZ primary in August."

    If he loses you could still implement this so called" November Strategy" and pick up his vote, no reason for him to become a tea party member and go against CIR, if he has been out stead by them, you could pick up his vote on the november strategy. Many people on his campaign have admitted that the people showing up at campaign events are Tea Party members there to see Sarah Palin but will vote for Hayworth in the election...
  17. George Chell's Avatar
    Also watch Indiana Senate horserace on the GOP side...only one month away. Whether white skin worshippers masquerading as Christians come out of the woodworks and pull Hostettler through will be interesting to watch.
  18. My 2 cents's Avatar
    From the in fighting going on in the RNC it seems the Dems could gain some advantage in November ( better if this can drag into Sep/Oct).
  19. John's Avatar
    What November 2010, we were promised that it will be in 09, there is no right time for CIR and I dont see this happening unless taken into consideration right after Financial Reform, before August recess, other wise we are doomed for few years.

  20. My 2 cents's Avatar
    Check this link & read "Update on Capitol Hill".

    http://hammondlawgroup.blogspot.com/
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