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Greg Siskind on Immigration Law and Policy

SHERIFF JOE CONDUCTS IMMIGRATION RAID AGAINST PHOENIX AREA MCDONALD'S

Rating: 9 votes, 5.00 average.

Notorious Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio deserves some credit for creativity. After losing much of his ability to enforce immigration laws when the Administration grew frustrated over civil rights complaints being filed against the Phoenix area law enforcement chief, Sheriff Joe has found a loophole. He's targeting illegal immigration through criminal laws rather than immigration laws. From the Arizona Daily Star:

A raid targeting illegal immigration led to the
arrests of 21 Phoenix-area McDonald's workers Friday, and
authorities were still seeking 30 other employees.


Those arrested during the raid of four McDonald's in Scottsdale,
Tempe and Mesa were being held on suspicion of identity theft. It
will take more time to determine whether any are illegal immigrants
as officials suspect, said Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

Deputies also searched a mansion in the tony Phoenix suburb of
Paradise Valley owned by Richard Coulston, who owns the
restaurants, Arpaio said. Coulston was not arrested.

It's a shame that Friday's arrests had to happen at the
fast-food restaurant, which is "more than just a business," Arpaio
said.

"It's an American institution," he said, adding, "a place that
my kids and yours could always count on for their first job ever.
That these McDonald's restaurants targeted in today's investigation
are giving jobs away to people using false IDs or perhaps working
here illegally is a shame."

One question that will certainly be asked is whether Sheriff Joe is profiling businesses that simply have lots of Latino workers as opposed to businesses he has genuine reason to believe are hiring illegally present immigrants. If that's the case, then expect some serious push back.







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  1. Legal and no longer waiting's Avatar
    Have not seen him raiding PetSmart headquarters or any other large employer in Phoenix.
  2. My 2 cents's Avatar
    ICE should raid his home/farm maybe he has some illegal household/farm help who knows!!!!!
  3. USC's Avatar
    Here is some relief that the Obama Administration could mete out without the necessity of Congressional action:

    The DOS could for one month every two years publish their visa bulletin with all FB and EB categories as current. This would enable H1b'ers, F1ers and others legally in the US to file for AOS and obtain AP and EAD.

    There is legal precedent for the above as the DOS made all EB categories (except for other workers) current back in July 2007.
  4. Jim's Avatar
    "There is legal precedent for the above as the DOS made all EB categories (except for other workers) current back in July 2007."

    I hope there would be no more July 2007 VB fiasco. People waiting on line overseas got the short end of the straw.
  5. USC's Avatar
    "People waiting on line overseas got the short end of the straw."

    Wrong. People "waiting in line overseas" do not get impacted merely because someone in the USA files and receives AP or EAD.

    I will be writing to the Secretary Clinton (letter will be signed by several folks who supported the Presidential campaign of the Senator from Punjab)on this and invite everyone to punch holes in this proposal. I like to keep my letters short, so do not plan to address the point that Jim has raised as it obviously wrong. However, if the experts here feel that I should address it I could add 3-4 lines and address why this argument is without merit.
  6. Jim's Avatar
    "Wrong. People "waiting in line overseas" do not get impacted merely because someone in the USA files and receives AP or EAD."

    Really!? So, people who are suppose to have exhausted their H1b who filed under EB2 India and EB2 China won't be able to get ahead of people under EB3 even if their priority dates are much later than those under EB3?

    Ever went to IV during those times and Indians under EB3 complaining that they got short-handed?

    A lot of people and *some* immigration lawyers also did not like the results of the whole fiasco.

    It was called a fiasco for a reason and it will probably not happen again specially now that both USCIS and DOS gives quarterly reports of their backlogs and availability of visas.
    So, don't count on another visa bulletin fiasco to the likes of the July VB 2007 fiasco happening again.



  7. Jim's Avatar
    "Belle, I don't understand your logic, since all categories are retrogressed, any additional visas will go to EB2, then EB3. How this is good, no one knows.

    As far as allegations are made about EAD / AP, you are the very guys who wanted to get into 485 the quick way, well you are here now. It is amazing how you spread rumors, USCIS has just so many GCs, how this turns into 'they want to make money' is in itself storytelling at its best. Don't want EAD, dont apply, simple, save your money. Dollar depreciating talk? Sounds like you are not going to be a loyal immigrant, sell your dollars and move somewhere else please.

    I have an explaination, when July Fiasco took place, our community rallied and caused an uproar, made USCIS look silly for a genuine mistake (or gift) to help us get more GCs, so you guys think they are going to move dates forward? with what they have gone through, absolutely not. *They will move it very very cautiously, no one is getting GC any faster, and I hate to do this, but I would say 'we got what we deserved'. Had they corrected July issue, most of us WOULD be current today."*

    source: http://murthyforum.atinfopop.com/4/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=1024039761&f=1474093861&m=9391033751


    That's just one of the rants I've read during those times. Similar rants were made in other forums back then.
  8. Another Voice's Avatar
    I think this guy has called the federal authorities' Bluff and unless the make an example out of him, he is not going to stop with this agenda....
  9. LFWF's Avatar
    So, let me get this straight. Because lots of people files a 485 in July 2007, we are suffering and if that had not happened "we would all be current now"?????

    And where exactly were the rest of the visa numbers coming from?
    You may complain that in its hurry to avoid 7/07 USCIS gave away GC out of turn. Fine. But beyond that, the numbers are what they are. And retrogression will remain what it is..until they increase.

    The rest is fuzzy math for individual benefit.
  10. LFWF's Avatar
    May I also point out that a very large number of people stuck in endless waits were able to file AOS, get and EAD and move jobs, further their careers and thus get on with life in the twilight zone.

    Without 7/07 all those people would be sitting in their old jobs with no prospects but waiting at they mercy of their employers. Filing an EAD is not always an option Jim. You may not appreciate this, individual circumstances are different and they tend to produce blinkers, but for many 7/07 was a lifeline.
  11. Hushdawg's Avatar
    I'm sick to death of seeing the illegal immigrants being the ones targeted and penalized over and over.

    Yes; okay, fine, they are breaking the law.

    However, the businesses which are hiring illegal immigrants are more culpable since they are perpetuating the problem.

    When illegals are found working, they should be given 14 days to begin the legal immigration process or be deported without prejudice to future re-entry.

    However, the employer should be fined heavily and have his unemployment insurance premiums raised to help cover the legal immigrants and US citizens who are out of work because of his illegal hiring practices.
  12. Jim's Avatar
    "Filing an EAD is not always an option Jim. You may not appreciate this, individual circumstances are different and they tend to produce blinkers, but for many 7/07 was a lifeline."

    Agree, it was a lifeline but it was a lifeline for *some* not a lifeline for the *many* as you keep thinking and as you've read from the sample rant I gave you many people thinks the same way as he does.

    And you fully know that the July 2007 fiasco was a mistake by both USCIS and DOS. Trying to request for another VB fiasco similar to what happened back then is going to produce what?? Another additional 400,000 backlog that will take 3-4 years to fix? The sudden 400k backlog produced back then is still being fix up to now and it;s close to 3 yrs already.

    Anyway, the probability that it's going to happen again is slim. You need to admit that at the very least and specially under Sec. Clinton's watch. She's going to be back as a politician as a NY Senator or whatever after she finished her term as Sec. of State and she already said that she only wants 1 term as Sec. of State as the job is quite taxing. She's no Condy Rice that whatever shortcomings and mistakes she makes isn't going to bite her back since she is a non-politician.

    Pray for CIR, or piece-meal legislations such as visa recapture not another fiasco.

  13. Jim's Avatar
    @Hushdawg

    What's your take on the national ID component of immigration reform? I ask this because the purpose of the national ID w/c is really a more hi-tech tamper-proof SS card is to prevent employers employing illegals. The information on the ID is not going to be on a nationwide database as well to prevent privacy/big brother issues.


    "We would require all U.S. citizens and legal immigrants who want jobs to obtain a high-tech, fraud-proof Social Security card. Each card's unique biometric identifier would be stored only on the card; *no government database would house everyone's information*. The cards would not contain any private information, medical information or tracking devices. The card would be a high-tech version of the Social Security card that citizens already have."

    From: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/17/AR2010031703115.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&sub=AR

  14. LFWF's Avatar
    Jim,

    I am not the one either praying for or expecting a repeat of 7/7. I am simply responding to the notion that it somehow changed anything. The backlog was there anyway, it just became visible. People filing AOS does not change backlog numbers. Those are determined by the inadequate quota. Please stop repeating this again and again. Filing a 485 does not create a backlog. It merely moves people from one queue to another.
  15. Jim's Avatar
    "I am not the one either praying for or expecting a repeat of 7/7. I am simply responding to the notion that it somehow changed anything. The backlog was there anyway, it just became visible. People filing AOS does not change backlog numbers. Those are determined by the inadequate quota. Please stop repeating this again and again. Filing a 485 does not create a backlog. It merely moves people from one queue to another."

    Well, someone is certainly praying for another fiasco. I think I don't have to say who he or she is do I?

    If you say is true then why even file for AOS? Everyone should just go for consular processing. Anyway, it doesn't matter. Fact of the matter is, it does matter and there is a difference and people saying there isn't is not being honest.

    Anyway, it won't be happening anymore and we just have to agree on disagreeing on that particular issue.

  16. Sid's Avatar
    Jim,

    I understand how people who were able to file for AOS due to the July chaos benefited from it but how did that affect overseas applicants adversely? Is there a scenario under which they would have gotten their GCs sooner? Certainly not under the existing system. For them the status quo was maintained.

    The policy change that has really affected EB3 (CP or AOS) is the reinterpretation of the spillover rules that happened sometime in 2008. It helped EB2-I/C applicants.

  17. Jim's Avatar
    "The policy change that has really affected EB3 (CP or AOS) is the reinterpretation of the spillover rules that happened sometime in 2008. It helped EB2-I/C applicants."

    Well, obviously I disagree with you guys. If I'm dead wrong then just ignore my opinions. Me, repeating again and again what I'm saying as LFWF said should not bother or irritate you guys (at least the 2 prior to you). Something that is totally wrong would not suddenly be right just because I keep saying it would it?

    And the same thing happening again is very slim. Writing a request letter to purposely do something that is not right is more my beef and most often than not it's the same people that thinks there should be no amnesty for illegals and complains that they might get ahead of them. Go figure.

    But like I said I'm confident that the July 2007 FIASCO won't happening again is very slim.

    I'm moving forward from this issue.
  18. USC's Avatar
    "Well, someone is certainly praying for another fiasco. I think I don't have to say who he or she is do I?"

    I assume you are referring to me as it was my suggestion. I can assure you that I do not waste my prayers on immigration reform.

    "Me, repeating again and again what I'm saying as LFWF said should not bother or irritate you guys (at least the 2 prior to you)."

    It doesn't bother anyone but you still haven't backed up your original charge that people overseas were disadvantaged. Your copying and pasting someone from a different forum proves absolutely nothing.

    "Writing a request letter to purposely do something that is not right is more my beef and most often than not it's the same people that thinks there should be no amnesty for illegals and complains that they might get ahead of them. Go figure."

    Do you then also oppose the Mehta-Endelman plan? It does the same thing. Absolutely, we have a very tough sell but don't discount our chances. We were able to get the then Senator Clinton to offer an amendment to permit wives of Permanent Residents to be classified as immediate relatives. This was during CIR2007.

    Sid/LFWF:

    You are the more thoughtful members of the blog and I often find myself in agreement with what you say but you are wasting your breath with Jim.
  19. Jim's Avatar
    "Do you then also oppose the Mehta-Endelman plan?"

    I'm not against it but the M-E plan is totally different from the July 2007 VB fiasco and what you intend to do.

    Yes, please. Don't waste your breathe with Jim. All your opinions, err views are 100% correct.

    Please just ignore my opinions on this particular issue. Don't let me irritate you.

    And oh, when you write to Sec. Clinton don't forget to cite the specific 1 month you want everything become current. it should be of course be the month more convenient to you.

    Officially, signing off from this issue.

  20. Hushdawg's Avatar
    Why not require state issued IDs to be more strict on the issuance? There should be a federal oversight for all State issued IDs to ensure that they meet a certain standard. We already do this for the licensing of professionals wherein each state has it's own license but there is an overall board which holds them to a national standard.

    In this way, we could ensure that each state is only issuing IDs for citizens and legal immigrants. Legal immigrants of course would have the state ID marked to indicate this.

    When applying for a job one should present the state issued ID card as part of the hiring process.

    We already HAVE ID programs in place, we just need to improve them. Adding a national ID card won't fix a problematic system, it will simply generate more sources of mistakes.
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