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WILL ANTIS SEND THE NEXT BIG THING TO ASIA?

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A kind reader sent me a link to a new Business Week article that discusses a fast emerging trend in American business schools - taking jobs in Asia rather than in the US. One of the biggest targets - young Asian immigrant students in the US being lured back home:

How much longer can the Asian allure hold?
With protectionist talk rising in America, and China trying to put the
brakes on its rapidly growing economy, there's always a chance that
Asia could stumble. There's also rising concern about what the
migration East might mean for the U.S.'s competitive edge.

"I
can't get out of my head that two-thirds of Silicon Valley companies
were started by non-U.S. citizens," says Manpower CEO Joerres. What if,
after Stanford University, GoogleSergey Brin
had returned to his birth country of Russia? What if James Tsai is
about to do the Next Big Thing --  but in his dad's old country in
Beijing?
co-founder

"The
best and the brightest are leaving," says the Rotman School's Florida.
"As a country, the U.S. has never confronted this before."

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  1. Dan's Avatar
    That's a good read. Is this a wake up call or what?
  2. George Chell's Avatar
    Hello this is the Asian Center for Immigration Studies. How dare these Americans take the jobs that rightfully belong to the Asians! How dare these folks move into our Shanghai neighborhoods!
  3. Jim's Avatar
    "Hello this is the Asian Center for Immigration Studies. How dare these Americans take the jobs that rightfully belong to the Asians! How dare these folks move into our Shanghai neighborhoods!"

    What goes around, comes around, ha?

    In a couple of years, the Chinese will be demanding that all foreigners who wants to work in mainland China, and HK learn how to speak Mandarin and will be instituting non-nonsensical requirements for work visas and have to wait for the long queue and intentionally cap visa numbers to control the flow of migrants from the West same way the current US immigration is trying to do. Fellow Asians will also be preferred and all others are all only going to be 2nd tier - just like how the EU and UK is doing with non-EU and non-UK born citizens.

  4. George Chell's Avatar
    "In a couple of years, the Chinese will be demanding that all foreigners who wants to work in mainland China, and HK learn how to speak Mandarin and will be instituting non-nonsensical requirements for work visas and have to wait for the long queue and intentionally cap visa numbers to control the flow of migrants from the West same way the current US immigration is trying to do. Fellow Asians will also be preferred and all others are all only going to be 2nd tier - just like how the EU and UK is doing with non-EU and non-UK born citizens."

    Dont think so! I have worked in Singapore and the Chinese thinking is similar. These guys are not as dumb as US legislators such as Deal, Westmoreland, Bachman and others. Their IQ is like that Giovanni Peri discussed in the Newsweek article and not like George Borjas who discounts globalization. The Chinese goal is to get MNEs such as Intel to move high end jobs to China. It is in their best interest to lobby for a tighter US policy while loosening their own. Thus they get extra tax revenues while looses its. Then they will lend it back to the US at a high interest rate!
  5. George Chell's Avatar
    I have now read the article thoroughly. I will share this article with Professor Peri at UC Davis when I see him in June. He is coming to our organization to present the results of his study. First, I had my last laugh. There are two kinds of people or groups in America that think that what is explained here does not occur:

    1. One is the not so bright folks in the US government led by the State Department, DHS and of course the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS). BLS is trying to figure out why unemployment rate is falling despite job destruction down to five digits during the last six months. They harp on discouraged workers. But, it is possible that lot of Americans dropped out of the workforce because they landed jobs abroad. If indeed there is a resurrection of job market on Good Friday (some economists think 300,000 jobs were created in March) and unemployment does not go up, it is very clear that people dropped out of the job market because many moved abroad. From the point of view of the unemployment rate, it is very good news, but from the tax revenue viewpoint it is an outright disaster.

    2. There are arrogant American experts who do not believe that Asian countries can provide US citizens with jobs. Heck, there are many arrogant American experts who do not believe despite evidence to the contrary that Asia can pull the US out of the recession. These included loose cannons on CNBC such as Nouriel Roubini and Meredith Whitney mutual fund people like John Lekas and Dan Cook and of course even well educated folks like Stiglitz and Rogoff who should know better!

    I take issue with one specific point in the article. Use of too many Asian and Asian American examples. For example:

    "After graduating from Duke University's Fuqua School of Business, Quan Trinh, 27, who grew up in Virginia, took a job with Johnson & Johnson in Shanghai. There she partakes of an upper-crust-Manhattan-type lifestyle -- food delivered to her door every night, a maid who picks up after her, a balcony apartment in a compound with a pool -- at Albany, N.Y., prices. Add to the mix that she travels around Asia with top J&J execs, working in the strategic planning division for the company's diabetes business, and, she says, "sometimes I have to pinch myself.""

    Racist antis at CIS, Manhattan Institute and FAIR, such as Kirkorian and Stein would say, so what? She should not be in America anyway...her folks should never have been let in! I find that attitude nauseating, no doubt, but an example of an attractive white American woman would have had more of a punching bag effect. When I lived in Singapore, back in 2002-2005 period, I always heard rattling upstairs in my apartment complex. A young model looking blonde white American woman in her late 20s from California lived up there. One day I finally asked her what the rattling at 3 AM was. She was asking her maid to go fetch a glass of water for her..she gets thirsty at night..she said..and of course the Filipina maid slept on the floor next to her bed and had to be ready at her beck and call. I heard stories that she took her maid with her on trips...I cant confirm this, but in her mid thirties and married to another expat now, my acquaintance tells me that she still does the same thing. Now this would have been a great example.

    "Multinationals like Citibank, Pfizer, Eli Lilly, and Nike China are also broadening their international programs and amping up hiring for their Asia divisions."

    To hire Asians who have been rejected H1Bs and thus putting a lie to the assertion by antis that one less immigrant means one more job for Americans. If this does not convince folks that the motivation of antis are essentially racist, nothing will.

    Well folks, in two months time, it will be my annual trip to Asia during which I do my medical check-up and I will also be visiting China, spending sometime in Shanghai. I will bring you news from on the scene.

  6. Another Voice's Avatar
    Unfortunately this argument does not resonate with politicians... to them immigrants are taking jobs from Americans and the farther they are the better for the populist antis.
  7. George Chell's Avatar
    "Unfortunately this argument does not resonate with politicians... to them immigrants are taking jobs from Americans and the farther they are the better for the populist antis."

    Actually I am surprised that some politicians have better brains than Bureaucrats at the State Department and USCIS...Lindsey Graham and even some others in the GOP such as Lugar and Alexander have better intelligence than some top officials in the State Department and USCIS.

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