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Greg Siskind on Immigration Law and Policy

NY TIMES: 287(G) NEEDS TO GO

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The Times editorial makes the case for centralizing immigration enforcement. Hat tip to Tom Roach for the link.

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  1. George Chell's Avatar
    More important Section 214(b) needs to go!
  2. Another voice's Avatar
    I think this program will continue as a PR tool that the government will use to say that they are tough on enforcing the immigration laws and cover their butt politically....
  3. gg's Avatar
    Its time ...
  4. Jim's Avatar
    Speaking of letting certain programs go, remember a couple of weeks ago (about the last week of Sept.) when we discussed disbanding the Diversity Immigrant Program and then generally suggested that the 55,000 visas a year just be added to the EB system?

    Turns out last Oct. 1 there was a bill that was introduced to do just that.

    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.3687:

    I hope this gets taken up and passes but I'm sure not everyone is happy as the visas does not specifically go to a specific country like a few would like it.
  5. George Chell's Avatar
    "Speaking of letting certain programs go, remember a couple of weeks ago (about the last week of Sept.) when we discussed disbanding the Diversity Immigrant Program and then generally suggested that the 55,000 visas a year just be added to the EB system?"

    We should push to end discrimination on the basis of nationality and race. Diversity program is a desperate attempt to keep the country white as long as they can..perhaps a bone to racist organizations such as CIS and FAIR. The cap on EB visas is to keep Asians out as long as possible and the long delay in adjudication of permanent residents might be a ploy to keep foreigners of extraordinary ability on O visa as long as possible (guess there is no time limit for this visa, right?) because many of the recipients happen to be Asian. The goal is not to preserve American jobs (it would go to the foreigner inside or outside the country anyway), but to keep the ethnic composition of the country as long as possible. Sadly, I have come to this conclusion.
  6. Legal and no longer waiting's Avatar
    "Diversity program is a desperate attempt to keep the country white as long as they can..perhaps a bone to racist organizations such as CIS and FAIR."

    I have to disagree with you on this one, George. CIS and FAIR want all immigration porgrams ended, so they are basically with you on ending DV (I recall seeing something about ending DV on NumbersUSA web-site). Even if you were right about "keeping the country white" though DV, it actually would not work, as "white" countries are in the minority in the world.
  7. George Chell's Avatar
    "I have to disagree with you on this one, George. CIS and FAIR want all immigration porgrams ended, so they are basically with you on ending DV (I recall seeing something about ending DV on NumbersUSA web-site). Even if you were right about "keeping the country white" though DV, it actually would not work, as "white" countries are in the minority in the world."

    Agree with you. However, CIS and FAIR have little or nothing to say about mostly western actors coming in from Europe or about western fashion models from other countries operating in the US. The proportion of foreign actors in Hollywood mostly from other western countries is higher than the Indian computer programmer. But, guess what? CIS and FAIR go after the Indian or Chinese computer programmer but not western actors. Unemployment is higher among American actors than among American computer programmers. I saw that CIS and FAIR had no problem when foreign western actors were used instead of potential Asian American in a movie about Asian Americans last year. There are a lot of Asian Americans who are good actors but who cannot get any roles in a movie because the American public does not want to see them or perhaps even finds them revolting..fair enough? Similarly, for whatever reason employers may prefer foreigners for computer programmers or engineers..perhaps they are better (I believe this is the case after the disaster in the hands of American engineers during Katrina, the Columbia Disaster and the recent Washington Metro tragedy) or it may simply be the perception. However, CIS and FAIR will never protest Asian Americans being excluded and replaced by white western actors, now do they? But, you will see a lot of protests when American programmers are replaced by Indians..why is that? Perhaps they are a bunch of racists in suits instead of hood. Is n't that the reason why SPLC calls at least one of them a hate group?
  8. Another voice's Avatar
    ATLANTA -- A 2-year-old program that gives the Cobb County sheriff's office power to enforce federal immigration laws has led to racial profiling and other problems, a civil liberties group said in a report released Monday.

    "Terror and isolation in Cobb: How Unchecked Police Power under 287(g) Has Torn Families Apart and Threatened Public Safety" also claims that immigrants have been unnecessarily detained under Cobb County's 287(g) program. The program, is named for the section of immigration law that governs it.

    The report is based on interviews with 10 residents who have been affected by the program and five community advocates and attorneys based in Cobb County, said report editor Azadeh Shahshahani of the American Civil Liberties Union of Georgia.

    "Cobb County residents who appear to be foreign-born have been subjected to rampant racial profiling and are routinely picked up by the police for minor or nonexistent violations," the report said. "Families have been torn apart as people are arrested on their way to conduct everyday business, leaving many wary of leaving their homes."

    Cobb County Sheriff Neil Warren did not return a phone call seeking comment about the program and did not respond to questions sent by e-mail.

    The report said the program causes immigrants to distrust law enforcement, making them less likely to report crimes and emboldening criminals.

    "We had someone call us. He was arrested for false ID. He was walking down the street. A police officer came up to him and asked for his papers. They said they were fake and they arrested him. We do not live in a police state," civil rights lawyer Jamie Hernan said in an interview quoted in the report.

    The report's release coincides with the departure this week of 18 deputies from another metro Atlanta county for about a month of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement training in Charleston, S.C. The Gwinnett County Sheriff's Department in July became the fifth law enforcement agency in Georgia to be approved for participation in the program. In addition to Cobb and Gwinnett counties, Hall and Whitfield counties and the Georgia Department of Public Safety also participate.

    Earlier this year, the Government Accountability Office - the investigative arm of Congress - said ICE had not clearly explained to local law enforcement agencies that serious criminal offenders, such as drug smugglers and murderers, should be the main targets.

    The U.S. Homeland Security Department, which oversees ICE, said changes have been made to incorporate the GAO's suggestions in the program.

    The ACLU report released Monday echoes complaints by many immigrant rights advocates nationwide that the changes don't go far enough to prevent racial profiling.

    Cobb County resident and anti-illegal immigration activist D.A. King is the founder of the Dustin Inman Society, which seeks stricter laws against illegal immigration and is named for a Georgia teen killed in a traffic accident caused by an illegal immigrant.

    King bristles at the notion raised by opponents of the program that people are deported for relatively minor offenses like having a busted tail light or driving without a license. They are deported, he said, because their illegal status is revealed when they are arrested for these or more serious offenses.

    "287(g) was never intended to only go after a certain group of criminals," he said.

    The law essentially allows local officers to perform the same functions as immigration officers. However, it also says local agents are beholden to Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, who has said the program should be used "to identify and remove dangerous criminal aliens."

    Hernan, the civil rights lawyer, said in a phone interview that he doesn't disagree with the program's premise but thinks it's used incorrectly.

    "I believe that the original intention of the 287(g) program was to identify serious criminals who were already in detention and allow the federal government to deport them," he said. "That's a sound policy. But if you look at the history of the program and how it's being used, it's clear that it is profoundly flawed."


    http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/251/story/871252.html#
  9. George Chell's Avatar
    Another Voice:

    What do you expect? It is Georgia! Mostly racists. Some things will never change. If you are an immigrant you are better off going to NY. I wonder why immigrants legal or illegal still settle in Georgia considering the fact that they add another two electoral votes to Georgia and thus empowering racist whites there! Had only citizens been counted for electoral college allotment in 2000, Al Gore would have been elected President!
  10. George Chell's Avatar
    One more thing! This is a civilized forum..otherwise I would have used even worse language describing white racist low-life Georgians!
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