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Greg Siskind on Immigration Law and Policy

COLUMNIST: HONOR KENNEDY BY PASSING IMMIGRATION REFORM

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Fox News contributor and newspaper columnist Morton Kondracke talks about honoring Senator Kennedy by passing immigration reform in addition to health care, his two unfinished fights.

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  1. Another voice's Avatar
    This guy is going to get fired from FOX NEWS for talking like that!!!
  2. Jack's Avatar
    '...that the bill would grant "amnesty" to illegals. It's akin to the current demagoguery over "death panels" supposedly created under pending health legislation.'

    Seriously? Some CIR proponents admit it is amnesty or essentially amnesty but Mort is more typical in his use of double-talk. Speaking of which, the CFR 'task force' engages in the contradictory 'enforcement is working/but it can't work without guest worker' line. Which is it? Think about how meaningless that is. Enforcement works--but only at the natural, demand determined immigration level (that which you'd have anyway with no enforcement of a limit). The 'enforcement is futile' crowd at least doesn't deceptively try to have it both ways but they are illogical too. If you truly believe enforcement if futile, why support CIR (which has enforcement provisions)? Easy answer--you don't care whether the enforcement works (or prefer none at all) and are in it just for the amnesty. If CIR is just a Trojan horse for amnesty, they are dishonest too.


    'Schumer could well advance the cause by holding a high-profile hearing featuring Jeb Bush as a key witness'

    Calling a Bush could well advance NumbersUSA's cause.
  3. George Chell's Avatar
    "Calling a Bush could well advance NumbersUSA's cause."

    Numbers USA is a bunch of quacks just like Jack!
  4. Vivek Shah's Avatar
    "Speaking of which, the CFR 'task force' engages in the contradictory 'enforcement is working/but it can't work without guest worker' line. Which is it? Think about how meaningless that is"

    Jack - I guess you do not have any capacity to think beyond your predujiced thought process.

    Why cant the two statements both be true? According to the task force, enforcement is working - so far. Better than earlier efforts. However, what they are also saying is that enforcement can only limit the problem to an extent; it cannot totally eliminate it.
    Maybe I should explain in kiddie terms - probably that is only what you are capable of understanding - Enforcement can take you from 0 to 10...may to 20. But it cannot take you to 100 where 0 is no control on illegal immigration and 100 is total control.
  5. gg's Avatar
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dawn-teo/after-being-ignored-by-wh_b_270451.html
  6. Laura's Avatar
    Whether you agree with Kennedy's positions or not, would it be a good policy to simply pass any legislation that a senator proposed once the senator dies?

    Should someone's death mean we bypass the normal democratic process of legislators representing the interests of the voters?

    I grant that this would be a "unique" way to run the government but I think I'll stick with the current approach.

  7. Jim's Avatar
    @Laura

    I do not think what you are saying is really what is going to happen. No one is going to bypass anything or anyone.

    It is but natural that the passing away of an iconic politician such as Sen. Kennedy will rile up the Dems and everyone that believes in his causes.

    Everyone has to admit that Sen. Kennedy died believing what he passionately believes in.

    So, don't be surprised if his passing away will even make a few GOPs reflect and even be inspired (specially the long-running ones such as McCain) to do what really is the best thing to do for America that may not be apparent now but will be for it's future.

    Who would want to retire from politics or even pass away not doing everything you can while still healthy and able to vote for things you truly believe in rather than just going with the flow of partisan politics.
  8. Greg Siskind's Avatar
    Laura - Historians generally agree that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 - the pillar of modern civil rights protections - only succeeded in passing because many in Congress knew it was a passionate cause for President Kennedy. And historians also agree that many in Congress voted for the 13th Amendment to the Constitution as a tribute to President Lincoln. Sometimes the passing of a great leader causes people to focus when politics would normally cause a blur.
  9. Adi's Avatar
    "Who would want to retire from politics or even pass away not doing everything you can"
    Very soon you will find out it will none of the jokers in Washington. All they care about is their re-election and filling up their banks. Rest is just a Hollywood show. Dems have really disappointed me. They have more drama than Reps. Atleast with Reps, they passed legislations.
  10. Jim's Avatar
    @adi

    You are probably right about some politicians caring more about being re-elected but I think you missed my point.

    I was only talking about a few politicians that has the same profile as Sen. Kennedy - served for years, retiring, or not in good health.

    Although there are no guarantees on what they will do, I am pretty sure these people are already thinking of "doing the right thing" while they are still in power and healthy enough to vote and still matters. They want a legacy too that people will remember them by.

    A politician will not be remembered and revered in history as being a "Democrat" or a "Republican" but what they have done and HC reform and Immigration Reform will be done sooner or later. It is inevitable. So why not be part if it now and not leave it to the next generations of new politicians to do it.

    The grand opportunity is here and now. No, telling what can happen to them within the next 1,2 or so years.

    Do they want to be remembered as someone that had the power to do something about it but chose not to because of partisan politics or they just want to be re-elected.

    Again, this only applies to politicians whose profile I described.
  11. USC's Avatar
    The Senator went above and beyond the call of duty when it came to immigrants work. The President remembers:

    http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/08/29/full-text-barack-obamas-eulogy-for-sen-edward-kennedy/

    "the famous story of how he won the support of a Texas committee chairman on an immigration bill. Teddy walked into a meeting with a plain manila envelope, and showed only the chairman that it was filled with the Texan's favorite cigars. When the negotiations were going well, he would inch the envelope closer to the chairman. (Laughter.) When they weren't, he'd pull it back. (Laughter.) Before long, the deal was done. (Laughter.)"
  12. analytical's Avatar
    Hello Greg,
    There is a news that Congress will take a lead for CIR only in 2011 ,Is this true??


    http://azcapitoltimes.com/blog/2009/...eform-in-2011/
  13. George Chell's Avatar
    Congress will likely have a widow of opportunity between November 2010 and June 2011..they should grab this opportunity!
  14. gg's Avatar
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/26393.html

    Dems looking at double digit loses in 2010. I think its time for Dems to pass CIR before its too late.
  15. USC's Avatar
    Here is a history lesson (from a Texan) for those of my Indian friends who believe that Cornyn is their advocate and Kennedy was an anti-immigrant Senator:

    "Immigration role

    While it may not be noted, perhaps the single most important contribution that Sen. Ted Kennedy made was the 1965 Immigration Act that literally changed the face of America. Kennedy picked up the fallen banner of his brother, President John F. Kennedy, who as a U.S. senator had both championed immigration reform and written a seminal work, A Nation of Immigrants. The heart of the legislation was the elimination of the National Origin System under which up until 1965, we had huge quotas for northern Europe and virtually no quotas at all for the rest of the Eastern Hemisphere except for the minimum quota provided by law of 100. Thus, up until the 1965 Act, there was an annual quota in excess of 65,000 per year for citizens of Great Britain and 100 per year for India and 100 per year for China and so forth. The 1965 Act completely eliminated the National Origins Test and provided immigration based upon the principles of family reunification and the needs of the U.S. economy where U.S. employers could prove the unavailability of qualified U.S. workers. Ironically, the 1965 Act also imposed for the first time quotas that went into effect for the Western Hemisphere, which ultimately resulted in the situation we find ourselves in today of having large numbers of undocumented workers, since the current quota for low-skilled workers is 5,000 per year. But on balance, the country is far richer for the large number of immigrants from India, China, the Philippines, Southern and Eastern Europe, Asia and Africa. It has enriched our culture and brought renewed energy and, as with immigration in the past, has continued to strengthen not only the American economy, but the American spirit and dream.

    -- Charles C. Foster, chairman, Immigration Task Force, Greater Houston Partnership"
  16. George Chell's Avatar
    "Dems looking at double digit loses in 2010. I think its time for Dems to pass CIR before its too late."

    Barring major disasters they will still keep the House and the Senate by comfortable margins!
  17. USC's Avatar
    "Destroy America to honor Mary Jo's killer."

    This is precisely why, like Barry Goldwater, I don't want to have anythimg to do with your ilk. Philosophically, I am opposed to Social Security, Medicare etc etc but Senator Kennedy was such an extraordinarily decent human being and you folks on the right are such low-lifes' that I chose to support the causes the Senator espoused rather than be on the same side as you folks. You folks are an embarrasment to the nation and the human race!
  18. gg's Avatar
    Did senator Schumer forget his promise of delivery a immigration bill by labor day ?
  19. gg's Avatar
    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s111-1550
    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s111-1549

    New immigration reform bill introduced in Senate ...
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