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Greg Siskind on Immigration Law and Policy

MCCAIN TO PACK UP TOYS, GO HOME

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John McCain, upset that Hispanics didn't vote for him in large numbers, is telling immigration reform advocates not to expect him to take a lead in pushing for passage of a bill. Stay classy, Senator McCain.

From the National Journal:

John McCain sounds angry and frustrated that, despite the risks he
took in pushing immigration reform, Hispanic voters flocked to Democrat
Barack Obama in last year's presidential contest. McCain's raw emotions
burst forth recently as he heatedly told Hispanic business leaders that
they should now look to Obama, not him, to take the lead on immigration.



The meeting in the Capitol's Strom Thurmond Room on March 11 was a
Republican effort led by Sens. McCain of Arizona, John Thune of South
Dakota, and Mel Martinez of Florida to reach out to Hispanics. But two
people who attended the session say they were taken aback by McCain's
anger.



What began as a collegial airing of views abruptly changed when
McCain spoke about immigration, according to these sources, who asked
not to be identified for fear of retribution. Anonymity was also
requested by a third source, who was not at the meeting but was told,
independently of the other two, that McCain had displayed his notorious
temper.



"He was angry," one source said. "He was over the top. In some
cases, he rolled his eyes a lot. There were portions of the meeting
where he was just staring at the ceiling, and he wasn't even listening
to us. We came out of the meeting really upset."

 

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  1. George Chell's Avatar
    McCain flipflopped and said in a debate with Romney that CIR is not going to happen. He sent mixed signals because he was afraid of the white skin worshipping pagans in the south, who have been masquerading as Christians not only at home but by sending missionaries abroad. One such missionary visiting Singapore from India told Indians working there to go back home from Singapore and serve their country and let citizens of US and Australia take care of the Singapore skill shortage..something that made the Singapore government very angry! That missionary belongs to one of the independent Baptist groups.
  2. dem's Avatar
    May be he should switch parties to get some votes
  3. Another voice's Avatar
    Well they better start to count the republicans that could support immigration reform if he is out. Mel Martinez, Thune, Specter maybe...not sure how many more they need the 60 votes on this one!!! Plus no guarantee that all dems will be in favor, this math is always tricky.
  4. Another voice's Avatar
    MaCain backed out of full support alienating Hispanics, plus it did not help that the republicans had thrown so much hate against immigrants in the primaries, he could not have expected a different result.
  5. Greg Siskind's Avatar
    Thune is a new name in the pro-immigration Republican community. That's good news. And McCain will probably still vote the right way even if he won't work for this bill. I would hope he's not that much of a jerk.
  6. giuseppe's Avatar
    Well, nothing wrong what his opinion, right now is on Obama and the dems to run the show , i am sure that Mc Cain will be a positive vote, but Obama needs to be the leader and need to have dem and rep working toghether and crafting a bill.
  7. George Chell's Avatar
    Collins, Snowe, Specter, Voinovich, Thune, Graham, Martinez and with some modifications may be we can get Cornyn, until 2010 Brownback, Gregg (?), Bond (?), Lugar and possibly McCain. Opposing Dems would be McCaskill, Durbin, Sanders (I) and Tester. Gillibrand now says she is on board. Looks like a close call!
  8. giuseppe's Avatar
    look like , if george is correct, 12 reps will say yes and 6 dems will say no, adding Kennedy, making 64...too close...are you sure that Kyle will be against? The dems list against is too short, there were another in Nebraska and the one in North Dakota...
  9. George Chell's Avatar
    Yes. Drogan and Ben Nelson may be against as well. Lincoln and Pryor are fence sitters. Feinstein used to be against but now she is for. Lamar Alexander may support it on the GOP side as well and Hutchinson may support too.
  10. Jim's Avatar
    How about Al Franken? The way it looks, he is going to be seated soon.

    Can we expect him to vote positively as well?
  11. Sir real's Avatar
    i dont see it happening this year, it needs support from the white house and obama/biden havent shown any as yet, both have given hints that its not going to happen now ateast
  12. Jim's Avatar
    "i dont see it happening this year, it needs support from the white house and obama/biden havent shown any as yet, both have given hints that its not going to happen now ateast"

    Are you 100% sure about that?? Besides from the recent comments by Vice Pres. Biden on his recent trip to Central America (http://blogs.ilw.com/gregsiskind/2009/04/forbearance.html) there is not much a case on Pres. Obama and the Whitehouse backing out on his promise with the Hispanic Caucus.

    Pres. Obama made several promises to the Hispanic Caucus on his meeting with Rep. Gutierrez just a few weeks ago and the following day went on a town-hall meeting to re-affirm his commitment to CIR. It's on youtube (visit the link below)

    I found this nice thread on a collection of snippets of recent articles and 1 youtube video of Pres. Obama re-affirming his support for CIR since the beginning of CHC's push on CIR starting on March, 13: http://foreign-nurse.lefora.com/2009/03/12/lucky-friday-the-13th-the-push-for-comprehensive-i/page1/

    Everything points out to the Obama Administration, at least trying it this year. So, there is support (for now). Of course, the CIR passing is another story.

    Not that I think they can't change their minds but unless Pres. Obama himself says so and there are more news about the Whitehouse delaying CIR besides from Vice President Biden's recent remarks then I think we really can't say for sure that the Whitehouse is not supporting CIR anymore.

    Just my two cents.
  13. Greg Siskind's Avatar
    I'm quite sure Franken will be a pro-immigration vote.
  14. Sir real's Avatar
    I don't think Obama has said it openly (he cant), but has dropped subtle hints by saying that pushing immigration during recession is tough/emotional issue etc, i honestly think that Obama's admin has unfortunately missed the boat on CIR, its going to be a killer for the politicians to push through 12 million newly legalized residents when about the same number will be unemployed, the labour market is not going to get back to normal before 2012-2013.

    Even if the CIR is picked up by congress, surviving and passing through is a whole different ball game, if it didn't in 2006 during healthy economy, now its seems pretty impossible.

    However if the economy was all honky dory, i do feel the Obama admin could have pushed it through all the way to the finish line. The timing has been all wrong, plain bad-luck i guess.
  15. Jim's Avatar
    "I don't think Obama has said it openly (he cant), but has dropped subtle hints by saying that pushing immigration during recession is tough/emotional issue etc, i honestly think that Obama's admin has unfortunately missed the boat on CIR, its going to be a killer for the politicians to push through 12 million newly legalized residents when about the same number will be unemployed, the labour market is not going to get back to normal before 2012-2013.

    Even if the CIR is picked up by congress, surviving and passing through is a whole different ball game, if it didn't in 2006 during healthy economy, now its seems pretty impossible.

    However if the economy was all honky dory, i do feel the Obama admin could have pushed it through all the way to the finish line. The timing has been all wrong, plain bad-luck i guess."

    We must be reading and watching the different articles and video. : )

    And you should really know the difference between Obama/Whitehouse supporting/not supporting it and Congress getting it through w/ enough votes.

    I think everyone already knows that it's not a slam dunk and that CIR getting through Congress is a totally different thing but it does not mean the Whitehouse/Obama does not support it. Even Rep. Gutierrez and the Hispanic Caucus knows that it's going to be tough and emotional. That's a given.

    I wonder what could he have said to Rep. Gutierrez, et al to make them happy after their meeting??

    They (Obama/Whitehouse) support it and they going to TRY it. Plain and simple. It's Congress that is still the unknown factor. There's also no guarantee it will even be taken up.

  16. Jim's Avatar
    I think everyone should a break and have laugh for a while after the tragedy in NY and currently another one in Pittsburgh.

    I recommend watching this clip from colbertnation.com just in case anyone one of you have missed it.

    Colbert on Glen Beck:

    http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/223279/march-31-2009/the-10-31-project
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