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Greg Siskind on Immigration Law and Policy

HISPANIC LEGISLATORS PUSHING ON IMMIGRATION REFORM

Rating: 2 votes, 5.00 average.

Two developments today:

1. Members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus had a meeting today with President Obama to press on immigration reform. The President indicated he is going to push on a reform bill this year. That we knew. But he also indicated he would hold some kind of "public forum" in about two months.

2. Senator Mel Martinez of Florida, one of the very small group of pro-immigration Republicans, is pressing the White House to get them moving on immigration reform. Martinez is retiring in 2010 and says he wants to focus on getting this accomplished during his final years in Congress.

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  1. casey's Avatar
    There are mixed reviews of the meeting Obama had with the HCC -According to the Washington Post, Gutierrez stated that there were no specifics offered by Obama... http://voices.washingtonpost.com/capitol-briefing/2009/03/rep_gutierrez_obama_has_been_e.html
  2. Dan's Avatar
    Hoping not to see a day when legals wanted to become illegal to gain US citizenship...
  3. Jack's Avatar
    'per the group's preference, immigration was the only subject discussed during the hour-long meeting'

    What a surprise.
  4. Mandrachorg's Avatar
    Haha! Good luck with that! We have EB-3 retrogressed to the dark ages, and a legal immigration system that's a complete joke, and nobody wants to try to lobby to reform this due to the current economic realities, and these guys show up and have the nerve to talk about giving amnesty to illegals (who, to top it off, can't even find jobs too anymore and are going back to their countries)? Like I said, good luck with that!
  5. Sid's Avatar
    CIR will be even more unpopular than bank bailouts in the current state of the economy. Most Americans are not in a charitable mood these days.

  6. guest's Avatar
    Is anybody gonna even advocating to the current government about fixing the nursing immigration? EB3 which nurses belong to, is retrogressed more and more every month, and atthe same time nursing shortage projected to growing. Hello? Does anyone hear nurses voice out there?
  7. George Chell's Avatar
    As I said, old news..not going to happen until 2011!
  8. gg's Avatar
    Obama has a very short window to get CIR through. If anything should happen it must in the Sep/Oct time line. With elections around the corner next year, both democrats and republican will be competing for the Hispanic vote block again. If democrats don't push this through then they are likely to loose some seats. Somewhere Harry Reid mentioned that to get CIR through would not take more than a week since the Bill was already debated extensively.
  9. Legal-immigrant's Avatar

    And what is Compete America doing now? It still has old H.R. numbers in the front page (www.competeamerica.org)
  10. George Chell's Avatar
    "And what is Compete America doing now? It still has old H.R. numbers in the front page (www.competeamerica.org)"

    Not competing much. I dont think there would be any CIR until 2011. The Dems will loose 20-25 seats in the House with or without CIR but will probably stay even in the senate.
  11. Jim's Avatar
    Would it be possible to have a CIR w/o the amnesty provision for illegals ??

    CIR is also about the legals too, you know.
  12. Kamal Jain's Avatar
    Legal immigrants should try to distance themselves from CIR and any talks of CIR. These are doomed to fail in the current economic climate. We should lobby for visa recapture and other measures, rather than hoping for the impossible (passing of CIR) and even more impossible (attaching provisions for legal immigration to CIR) to happen. As long as CIR is pushed for by ethnic organizations and lobbies, it will never be "comprehensive" in the sense that it will include both legal and illegal immigration provisions. The Hispanic caucus only cares about Hispanic immigration, and they have proven this time and again. We should just lobby for peace-meal immigration bills like visa recapture, exemption of family members from EB numbers, exemption of US graduates with Masters or PhDs, etc. We have nothing to do with law-breakers and other groups, which have very strong public opinion against them.
  13. Legal and no longer waiting's Avatar
    "Legal immigrants should try to distance themselves from CIR and any talks of CIR. These are doomed to fail in the current economic climate."

    Unfortunately, your plan is doomed to fail even faster. It's one thing to deal with 12 million people, and quite another with 0.3 million. By distancing yourself, you will get nothing at the end. Exactly what you have been getting in the last 3 years of the same failed strategy.

    "We have nothing to do with law-breakers and other groups, which have very strong public opinion against them."

    That's precisely why they will not move their finger to help you. Nobody wants to help jerks.
  14. Another voice's Avatar
    Its a mistake for legal immigrants to distance themselves from CIR efforts, legal immigrants can piggyback on CIR and get their stuff moving again, even if the Hispanic caucus only cares about Hispanics because its a large voting block and the largest minority does not mean they do not sympathize with the Immigration cause as a whole, but it will be tough, very tough. Yet I do not think the dems can afford to do nothing if they want to keep their majorities and the republicans are probably ready for immigration to go away in order to compete for the Hispanic vote on other issues.
  15. D's Avatar
    "Legal immigrants should try to distance themselves from CIR and any talks of CIR. These are doomed to fail in the current economic climate. We should lobby for visa recapture and other measures, rather than hoping for the impossible (passing of CIR) and even more impossible (attaching provisions for legal immigration to CIR) to happen. As long as CIR is pushed for by ethnic organizations and lobbies, it will never be "comprehensive" in the sense that it will include both legal and illegal immigration provisions. The Hispanic caucus only cares about Hispanic immigration, and they have proven this time and again. We should just lobby for peace-meal immigration bills like visa recapture, exemption of family members from EB numbers, exemption of US graduates with Masters or PhDs, etc. We have nothing to do with law-breakers and other groups, which have very strong public opinion against them."

    Dont ever use word "law-breakers" ever again. Most of the EB applicants will be out of this country if laws were to be interpreted as USCIS or CIS(Ceter for BS studies...) wishes to. I dont care about "legal" or "illegal" as long as they make everyone eligible for same CIR benifits.

    I know from CIR 2007 experience that EB immigrants will be screwed bigtime again because these idiots(like Durbin, Grassley , Sanders ) want some punching bags and EB immigrants are easy targets for that.

    Part of me wishes for no CIR because the draconian anti EB provisions that will accompany the bill... I have been waiting for 5 years and can wait few more ..



  16. Jim's Avatar
    "Its a mistake for legal immigrants to distance themselves from CIR efforts, legal immigrants can piggyback on CIR and get their stuff moving again, even if the Hispanic caucus only cares about Hispanics because its a large voting block and the largest minority does not mean they do not sympathize with the Immigration cause as a whole, but it will be tough, very tough. Yet I do not think the dems can afford to do nothing if they want to keep their majorities and the republicans are probably ready for immigration to go away in order to compete for the Hispanic vote on other issues."


    Yep, that's what I thought too. I agree with everything you said. Very unfortunate and sad though that it would be the legals that will piggy-back on them rather than the other way around.

    I feel the world is upside down, sometimes.
  17. Another voice's Avatar
    "Yep, that's what I thought too. I agree with everything you said. Very unfortunate and sad though that it would be the legals that will piggy-back on them rather than the other way around."

    Is not a matter of fairness is just how politics works and since politicians are the ones that decide it has to be their way or the highway...
  18. George Chell's Avatar
    Grassley and Durbin want to destroy the country. First they are mad at all the folks who took the bonuses and many of whom are unemployed. "These guys dont perform," they say. By the same token, they want the corporations to give these unemployed folks many of whom ran the corporations to the ground, the first go at the jobs that are available. Brilliant idea! Grassley and Durbin should be nominated for Nobel Prize in Economics!
  19. Kamal Jain's Avatar
    Do you really think the purported "12 million" votes (which won't materialize in the next 10-20 years because even if legalized, these people won't become US citizens overnight) are stronger than the immediate purchasing power of the IT, bio-tech, science, and engineering corporate lobbies?

    I don't think it will be hard to get small EB provisions related to US-educated and high-skill immigration to pass. In 2007 nothing happened because nobody tried anything in the first place. Everybody was waiting on the CIR, which failed miserably (when the economy was booming; imagine trying to pass it now!), and only at the last moment were "EB recapture" bills introduced just before presidential elections when it was too late. The CIR of 2007 tried everything possible to screw over legal immigration (by attempting to introduce point-based systems and giving gigantic numerical preference to family-based immigration), while at the same time slapping the generic label "immigrants" on everybody regardless of how they came to the country.

    It would be a mistake to wait for the Hispanic lobby to get you EB relief, and it would be another mistake to let them use the face of high-skilled scientists, engineers, doctors and university professors to try to get amnesty for people who don't even speak English.
  20. gg's Avatar
    Regardless of what anyone thinks or how much they rant on this forum its not going to have any effect. The law makers will decide based on their interest, their party's interest and the country's interest. I feel Obama will be inclined to pass the CIR since Hispanic people delivered him landslide victories pretty much everywhere. No bill is perfect so is CIR, but it has a lot of new things in it and some very good ones too.
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