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KOSHER MEAT SHORTAGE WORSENS IN WAKE OF AGRIPROCESSORS RAID

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More fall out from the raid of the country's largest Kosher meat plant. The company, which supplied 60% of the Kosher beef in the US and 40% of the plant is now closed.

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  1. Another voice's Avatar
    WOW so unemployed citizens of that town were not willing to take up the jobs vacated by the immigrants that used to work there.
  2. NonKosher's Avatar
    That means you need to become a vegetarian or to switch to regular meat. I eat regular, and I'm all right.
  3. George Chell's Avatar
    "That means you need to become a vegetarian or to switch to regular meat. I eat regular, and I'm all right."

    No! We need to import Kosher meat. It is probably cheaper to produce abroad. There is another analogy to what you say. Housing crisis in Arizona exacerbated by tough new immigration laws. People who loose their home should live on the streets (particularly those who supported all the GOP proposals in the state)..they should not be asking for bailout from taxpayers.

  4. Greg Siskind's Avatar
    And I'm a 20 year vegetarian. But I don't tell people what they should and should not eat, particularly those with religious dietary restrictions.
  5. Comment's Avatar
    Siskind - So what are you saying? Should ICE not have performed the worksite enforcement action and allowed the worker abuses, including physical abuse and violations of child labor laws, to continue?? You keep posting about the fallout from the action, implying that ICE should not have done it.
  6. Greg Siskind's Avatar
    I've made it quite clear what my position is - we need a guest worker program in this country particularly for industries like this. If we had an adequate guest worker program with plenty of labor protections and supervision, this kind of story would not be playing out every day.

    Lou Dobbs may think that Americans would line up for these super-tough jobs in the middle of sparsely populated areas if employers would just pay more money. This is just a fantasy. All that happens is that food prices rise and we end up killing domestic production.

    If you love imported oil, you're going to love being dependent on foreign countries for our food.
  7. Jack's Avatar
    'plenty of labor protections and supervision'

    If you could even get some as opposed to 'plenty', (and the lobbying effort against non-window dressing protections would be huge), all of the labor protections in the world written into law are worthless unless enforced. Given the dismal history of labor protection enforcement where migrant labor is involved, what makes you think protections would be vigorously enforced? Isn't it 'just a fantasy' to simply assume this time it will be different?
  8. Comment's Avatar
    You are dodging the question with inapposite CIR talking points. Knowing what it did about the worker abuses at Agriprocessors, should ICE or should it not have performed the worksite enforcement action against the company? Qui tacit consentere, so I`ll assume your silence on that question means you think it was wrong of ICE to perform the action.
  9. Greg Siskind's Avatar
    I don't debate the antis in the comments. I do actually have to get work done. Occasionally, I'll reply, but I make my arguments in my posts and if you want to know my opinions, rely on them. Those who expect to lure me in to a debate will be disappointed.
  10. GG's Avatar

    Why are the antis missing in action.

    Where is Lou Dobbs ? Perhaps he should send his investigative reporter to locate legal US citizens who are willing to take these jobs ..
  11. Jack's Avatar
    'I make my arguments in my posts'

    I give Greg credit for at least not avoiding the subject of worker abuse altogether. I also appreciate that he often offers detailed policy proposals and not just slogans. However, the answer about worker abuse in his recent comment is facile.

    History, and not just in the U.S., suggests that when it comes to 'temporary guest workers', they end up in non-authoritarian countries permanently, not temporarily, and their actual treatment falls short of what legal labor protections are supposed to provide. If that's unacceptable, then the onus is on the guest worker proponents to provide something credible, in light of all factors, as to why the future won't be like the past.



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