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Greg Siskind on Immigration Law and Policy

STUDENT AND EXCHANGE VISITOR VISAS INCREASING

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Some good news after years of bad. F, J and M visa issuance was up to a record high 710,631 in fiscal year 2008 which ended September 30th. That's extraordinarily good news for the US. Those that stay will help to rebuild out economy and bring vital skills needed for us to compete globally. And those that go home - most of the visa holders - bring back good memories of the US and help improve our image around the world. Plus, American universities benefit from having foreign students who pay full out of state tuition rates and help subsidize student aid for American students.

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  1. F-1's Avatar
    Actually, the good news isn't so surprising. As the DOS press release says: "This is the third fiscal year in a row the State Department has broken records in this area. The State Department continues to issue student and exchange visas well above highs before 9/11."
  2. chaman's Avatar
    whats so good about this?? its a waste till they dont figure out a way to give all international students work visas , we having to leave after having spent $$$ in the US is a monumental waste, 85k visas out of which more than half goto IT bodyshopping companies, its a shame that the only way we can work is hoping we get a lottery, plz fix this situation first then be happy about increased international student enrollment
  3. George Chell's Avatar
    "whats so good about this?? its a waste till they dont figure out a way to give all international students work visas , we having to leave after having spent $$$ in the US is a monumental waste, 85k visas out of which more than half goto IT bodyshopping companies, its a shame that the only way we can work is hoping we get a lottery, plz fix this situation first then be happy about increased international student enrollment."

    When the dust settles and when the data become available, you will see a dramatic drop in US students attending top state and private universities due to problems at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The credit market has frozen and this has affected many and next year is going to be even worse. I have heard that the state department is going easier on visas because they do not want to get blamed for potential financial problems at the Universities. For instance, in one small Asian country supposedly there were no visa refusals during July and August. So Section 214-b is not being enforced strictly and in some countries, I believe it is not enforced at all, although the consular officers are trained to lie like the rest of the US government (from GDP to unemployment) and they wont confirm this. However, will the antis protest lack of funding for the domestic students. No..Racist Kirkorian wants quotas for foreign students..domestic students and the universities be damned..otherwise you would have seen those clowns protest in front of Fannie Maed and Freddie Mac.

    Most of the PhDs are not subject to the H1-B caps and at least the majority of the Asian students are under this category. The problem arises if they cannot get Green Cards after several years. Hence, most try to enter under outstanding ability route and do succeed. There are no clear data as to how many return home..,by home I mean back to the country of citizenship. Most leave the country. But, this week when I was visiting Canada, I found several US graduates working there after failure to get visas..and most of these were there because they could not get the work visa..at least 60 in one corporation hired over a period of last five years. There are more Indian and Chinese graduates of US universities working in Hong Kong and Singapore than anywhere else (perhaps even their home countries)and they work for US corporations in those countries. So, the jobs have obviously been created abroad instead of here in the US. Hence, I dont believe the argument that US corporations loose competition to other countries. Actually they may gain because in Hong Kong and Singapore they dont have to pay social security. But, in an era of deficits and debt as far as the eye can see, US citizens are the biggest loosers. Every job created for a graduate foreign student in another country means the taxes are paid there, not in the US adding to the US debt and deficit, and of course putting a big hole in the social security funds. The market is bigger and growing in Asia and these jobs are generally created by revenue and profits earned there. So the US cannot do anything about it other than perhaps cut of tax breaks which would mean even more US jobs would go abroad (no idea why Obama is going back on the campaign promise to end tax breaks for corporations moving jobs abroad, trying to bail out three of the biggest job movers the Big 3 while foreign auto corporations have created twice as much jobs in the US in the past twenty years..he should provide tax breaks to Honda and others to take over the Big 3 and keep jobs here). A lot of economists such as George Borjas do not want to address this issue..because it would mean that their propoganda, their credibility and their livelihood would be threatened..so they keep perpetuating the fraud along with the racists at CIS, FAIR and Numbers USA that one less job for a foreign student is one more job for an American and much higher wages. Of course the racists at CIS, FAIR and Numbers USA just dont want non-whites in the country..they dont care if jobs go abroad.

  4. 's Avatar
    All these students are just getting milked for nothing. I see half of them going back broke. They will soon realize that there are no jobs here.
  5. George Chell's Avatar
    "All these students are just getting milked for nothing. I see half of them going back broke. They will soon realize that there are no jobs here."

    Many are not coming for jobs. They will learn and take their skills to another country.

  6. ruby 's Avatar
    i know tons of my friends who have gotten awesome jobs outside the US (and not in thier home countries but other competing economies) becoz of thier prized US degree skills all becoz they could'nt get a work visa here
  7. LucieO's Avatar
    I know and have heard of many well skilled people who obtained their degree(s) here in the US; however had to leave because they could not get work visa or post-worker visa papers. It really should be made easier, and possible, for all those needed graduates. More so, it should be made easier for all those educated and skilled individuals who often spend a decade or more in the US, living, making friends, and considering US their 'home' to stay even pass the work visa. When a person spends about 4 years obtaining Bachelor's Degree, then a year on OPT, then another 2 years towards Master's Degree, maybe another OPT or Doctorate, followed by H1B that is extended to a total of 6 years --> it is easily more than 10 years that the person studies, works, lives, travels, makes friends, contributes, volunteers, and becomes a part of the US society. It is very hard and seems almost unfair to ask that person to suddenly leave, after so many years of financial, intellectual, educational, and emotional investment into this country, just because papers expired or are impossible to obtain.
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