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Greg Siskind on Immigration Law and Policy

PELOSI INDICATES DEMOCRATS WILL MOVE ON IMMIGRATION REFORM

Rating: 2 votes, 5.00 average.

From an interview in today's Los Angeles Times:

Pelosi also said Congress would have to tackle the politically sticky
job of overhauling immigration laws in the new Congress, after a
bipartisan measure collapsed last year.

The estimated 12 million
immigrants in the U.S. illegally "are part of the U.S. economy. We
cannot send them all home, and we cannot send them all to jail, so we
have to address it," Pelosi said.

Any solution would have to be
bipartisan, she said, so it may require sacrificing some of Democrats'
past priorities, such as giving illegal immigrants a path to
citizenship.

"Maybe there never is a path to citizenship if you
came here illegally," Pelosi said. "I would hope that there could be,
but maybe there isn't."

This is certainly an indication that if President McCain or Obama decide to push immigration reform in their 100 day agenda, they'll find a willing Congress. While some in the hard core pro-immigrant community will no doubt push to kill any bill that does not include a path to citizenship, hopefully they will realize after two prior failures that the only way we will improve the immigration system is to accept compromise. The perfect is the enemy of the good, folks.

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  1. Legal and no longer waiting's Avatar
    I really don't understand what they mean by "path to citizenship". Any legislation that allows people to stay indefinitely is a pathway to permanent residence, and PR is a pathway to citizenship. Are they going to try to create a separate PR status that precludes people from getting naturalized? That's just stupid. Are they going to give people a temporary status that precludes them from adjusting to LPR? Then, it is even more stupid as we are going to be at the square one right after this temporary status expires - with 12 million (or, however many make it till the end) undocumented people. Can anyone explain?
  2. Another voice's Avatar
    I agree that in order to have a bipartisan bill compromise will be required, why she is already conceding the path to citizenship is not really understandable. Besides if the dems gain solid majorities on both houses of congress they can write the bill and control the negotiation. After all the republicans are losing big time the Hispanic vote if they want a chance to WH in the future they have to get on board on an issue that no doubt impacts that large constituency, I agree that after 2 failures perfection is the enemy but compromise can take many shapes and forms and the devil will be in the details and the compromises.
  3. hmm's Avatar
    LNLW: first goal should be to bring people of out shadows, and this can be accomplished by giving them a temporary status good for 6 years. After everyone is accounted for, one should start planning what to do next. At the moment nobody even knows how many people the system will have to deal with.
  4. JoeF's Avatar
    Legal:
    It of course is a pathway to permanent residence. Citizenship follows from that, like for any other permanent resident.
    But try to explain these things to the public in a 5-second soundbite on TV...
  5. JoeF's Avatar
    Legal:
    It of course is a pathway to permanent residence. Citizenship follows from that, like for any other permanent resident.
    But try to explain these things to the public in a 5-second soundbite on TV...
  6. JoeF's Avatar
    I have no idea why my posts show up twice. I only click "Post" once...
  7. Another Voice's Avatar
    I don't think Mrs. Pelosi was thinking this through when she made these statements. Why when the dems are set to control the legislative and executive branches of governments and have a chance to write the reform that they would stand to gain on the most would pass on the biggest price which is 12 million of potential new democratic voters for life!!! I don't believe that for a second, specially if that can ensure 12 years of more of democratic dominance given the close the latest elections have been. if there is a reform path to citizenship will be included, after all these people do not act out of the goodness of their heart its all for political gain specially on the house side.
  8. yave begnet's Avatar
    "Maybe there never is a path to citizenship if you came here illegally"

    This is nowhere close to "good" that could conceivably be the enemy of the perfect. Without a way back into legal status, what is left for immigrants? Compromise is necessary--we all agree on this. But what kind of compromise is giving up the core element on the pro-migrant side? And why are Democrats pushing this kind of compromise?

    With respect (and I mean respect: http://immigration.change.org/blog/view/online_advice_for_immigrants ), I can only imagine that the majority of Greg's clients are in lawful status, or else he would see how critical it is that a route to lawful status is *the* key component to comprehensive reform for immigrants.
  9. beppenyc's Avatar
    Greg,
    can you tell to senator/congressmen that the green card will be enough? Or Something close to the green card?
  10. Legal and no longer waiting's Avatar
    hmm, so, you are going to bring people out of the shadows, give them some legal status. Are you going to specifically preclude them from adjusting to PR because it's a "path to citizenship" even if they are eligible through family or job (CIR 2006 had that condition)? So, what is going to happen after the temporary period runs out - are you OK with having 12 million newly illegal immigrants just because you know who they are?

    "It of course is a pathway to permanent residence." OK, but the question remains - if some of them are eligible for PR, would that mean that by obtaining legal status under this law they will be precluded from adjusting to PR? If not, it's still a "pathway to citizenship" for some, and if yes, then this is not a viable solution.

    "Maybe there never is a path to citizenship if you came here illegally"

    Are people OK with millions of people living in their country for 10-20-30 years, paying taxes, raising their families, participating in the community, who are never going to be citizens? This makes no ******* sense, pardon my French...
  11. beppenyc's Avatar
    Legal,
    i think that a lot of people will prefer to be legal than the current status of today.

  12. George Chell's Avatar
    Everything will depend on the economy. If unemployment goes upto 7% may be. If it goes to 8% all bets are off! And lack of EMB visas will mean more corporations would use the recession as an opportunity to move jobs abroad. Happened in 1992, happened in 2002-03, and will happen again. In fact, Japanese firms moving jobs abroad in large scale fashions to avoid paying higher wages between 1990 and 1993 to countries such as Singapore and Hong Kong led to the collapse of the Nikkei and skyrocketing of Hang Seng and Straits Time Index...while economists such as gloom and doom Nouriel Roubini talk about the housing bubble from which Nikkei and Japan never recovered, they will not talk about jobs moving abroad to Singapore and Hong Kong. In fact, the 1990-93 jobs relocation to Singapore which had and has liberal foreign labor laws most likely contributed significantly to that country's economic development.
  13. Legal and no longer waiting's Avatar
    "i think that a lot of people will prefer to be legal than the current status of today. "

    Absolutely. But "no path to citizenship" means that eventually they will be stuck either in some sort of non-naturalizable semi-permanent status or become illegal again when their temporary status expires. Neither appears to be a solution, but rather a band-aid.
  14. jen's Avatar
    http://speaker.house.gov/contact/

    If Pelosi wants to see a permanent underclass of 12 million slaves with no future why bother with any reform? Things are good, no?

    Oh, not to mention that a comprehensive immigration reform including a path to citizenship is the official Democratic Party platform... I guess it was crafted to bring the Hispanic community to vote Democrat and to vote early, so now the Dems can show their real face because they don't care anymore.

    And what compromise is she talking about? With a Dem President and increased margins in the Congress why would she need to worry about a compromise? How spineless is that woman? First she wouldn't impeach Bush, now this...

    How do you recall the Speaker of the House?

    For now you can give her a piece of your mind here: http://speaker.house.gov/contact/
  15. jen's Avatar
    http://speaker.house.gov/contact/

    If Pelosi wants to see a permanent underclass of 12 million slaves with no future why bother with any reform? Things are good, no?

    Oh, not to mention that a comprehensive immigration reform including a path to citizenship is the official Democratic Party platform... I guess it was crafted to bring the Hispanic community to vote Democrat and to vote early, so now the Dems can show their real face because they don't care anymore.

    And what compromise is she talking about? With a Dem President and increased margins in the Congress why would she need to worry about a compromise? How spineless is that woman? First she wouldn't impeach Bush, now this...

    How do you recall the Speaker of the House?

    For now you can give her a piece of your mind here: http://speaker.house.gov/contact/
  16. hmm's Avatar
    LNLW: first of all I am against any drastic changes. One should move carefully keeping track what happens to the economy because CIR would be expensive. But here are some ideas. To start with people should be brought out of the shadows, into temporary J-like status. Then I think all long term temporary residents should be treated in pretty much the same way.
    Why cannot J1/F1s adjust status to LPR? Why cannot H4 spouses work while getting the green card? Why do legal immigrants who were at some point out of status have trouble getting a green card? There should be uniform policy on how long term temporary residents are treated, no back doors, no special political considerations.
  17. 's Avatar
    Well, what is Ms. Pelosi going to do about the spouses and children of LPRs waiting for 5-6 years to get a visa? No word on that. So much for Dems and family reunification.
  18. Dan's Avatar
    Democrats is the only hope of legal immigrants....Republicans are too tied up with enforcement only policy!
  19. ASDF's Avatar
    Pelosi is showing why the Dems are spineless idiots. Dont be surprised if the Dems do not any thing with immigration in spite of filibuster proof majority in Senate along with House majority and president obama.
  20. 's Avatar
    Hi all

    Could some one tell if I can renew my OPT after 12 months if I am a nurse. I have a BSN degree?

    Thanks
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