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Greg Siskind on Immigration Law and Policy

AMERICANS LOSE INTEREST IN IMMIGRATION

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The number of Americans who think immigration is the country's most serious issue is now down to just 1% and the issue ranks just 12th in order of priority, according to a new DiageoHotline poll of voters. That's less than 1/10th of the number that it was in August 2007 (after the immigration reform bill failed in Congress). At that time, immigration ranked second on the list of issues.



Psstt, members of Congress, I've got a secret to tell you. You can now safely do what you think is best on immigration issues and you don't need to worry about the politics. American voters have moved on. Sure extremists might still flood your switchboard with calls. But there's not going to be any groundswell of support behind them.

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  1. josy's Avatar
    So that means if the attorneys try for passage of a bill now it may get enacted soon, i hope.But is it usefull going to US in the middle of this economic crisis?
  2. JoeF's Avatar
    The crisis is worldwide, since the economy is global nowadays.
    So, it isn't any worse here than anywhere else in the world.
    Anyway, a lot depends if Congress gets their act together. Today wasn't exactly a good performance. We eventually will have a bailout, it just depends how much damage Congress can do before agreeing to it.
    In any case, the US will remain the world's economic engine for 1-2 decades. Then, China may be ready for prime time.
  3. George Chell's Avatar
    We will have a housing price collapse of another 50% and a Great Depression if we try to deport 12 million illegals. It will put another three million units in the market. In other words adopt the Romney, Huckabee or Tancredo proposals and from a finance and economics point of view DIE! Secondly, the only way we will get out of housing this mess is to double the number of investor visas to get foreigners buy the surplus houses, because there are not that many Americans willing or able to buy them without another billions of dollars of bailout (beyond the $700 billion now under consideration).
  4. Another voice's Avatar
    I think if they fix the immigration system even with the economic crisis the politicians can claim victory in many fronts:

    Improve the security of the US as 12 million people will be documented and we will know who they are.

    The agricultural crisis that has spiked food prices and cause food inflation will improve as agro-business will not have a shortage of legal workers, because un-employeed Americans will still not pick crops they rather collect un-employment benefits first.

    The government will inject a nice sum of money as fines, back taxes paid by immigrants to get regularized.

    I am sure that Houston and New Orleans could use some help rebuilding their cities.

    So I am sure fixing immigration will be useful as many more people that get paid cash can get on regular payrolls and pay taxes.

    Banks can get cash infusions as immigrants are able to open bank accounts.

    The car and housing industry can make some sales as immigrants can get a driver's license and confident that they can stay in the Us without fear may prompt some of the 12 million to buy a home instead of renting.

    I think it would be useful.
  5. George Chell's Avatar
    Good points Another Voice..Meanwhile, I think Lou "the Looser Dumb" Dobbs is at it again...

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/09/30/dobbs.qa/index.html

    Of course, he will like nothing better than deporting 12 million illegals, throwing three million additional units into the markets, sending us to another Great Depression.
  6. hmm's Avatar
    CIR will be expensive, very expensive if the Government follows its usual procedures, which it surely will. Unless there is a clear way to make immigration into money maker, which frankly I do not see, I think the best policy is to do nothing. No CIR, no raids, no immigration enforcement. Humanitarian reforms, such as CIR, should be done when economy is booming, when people feel gentle and generous.
  7. skrish's Avatar
    In a couple more months if the economy continues the way its going, the Title will be "Immigrants lose interest in Immigration" :-)
  8. George Chell's Avatar
    "In a couple more months if the economy continues the way its going, the Title will be "Immigrants lose interest in Immigration""

    Already started to happen! Last year intake was around 500,000 down from one million a year earlier.
  9. George Chell's Avatar
    "CIR will be expensive, very expensive if the Government follows its usual procedures, which it surely will. Unless there is a clear way to make immigration into money maker, which frankly I do not see, I think the best policy is to do nothing. No CIR, no raids, no immigration enforcement. Humanitarian reforms, such as CIR, should be done when economy is booming, when people feel gentle and generous."

    Everyone is talking about a Great Depression. Just pass the Romney or Hucakabee version of the immigration bill which would take 12 million illegals out of the country...it will put another 3 million units in the market....and presto..we will have the Great Depression and no one will feel gentle or generous. Perhaps this is what racists at Manhattan Institute, FAIR, CIS and Numbers USA want!
  10. Legal and no longer waiting's Avatar
    CIR will not be expensive. Immigrants will pay trifold for processing (even for the inefficient government processing), plus fines to the tune of $5,000 per legalization. Have you ever did the math on those numbers? AOS alone for 12 million people is $12 Billion in USCIS fees. Now, the fines are $60 BILLION (!!!) That's like 8.5% of the whole infamous "bailout"! Don't tell me this is not enough to process these people. Yet, we have not even started on the lifetime of income, Social Security, property, sales and other taxes they will pay.

    Deporting 12 million people is not going to happen. Even if deportation is possible, majority of the illegals are in mixed-status families, thus, the country will lose at least 20 million people, or roughly 6.7% of the population. Now, imagine where this will send home and car sales...
  11. AD's Avatar
    We'll see. The chances of Congress (Democrat or Republican) getting anything done are slim to none. If they are unable to get over partisan considerations on something as important as the bailout, what does that say about prospects for minor issues like immigration?
  12. hmm's Avatar
    LNLW: sure if by CIR you mean rubber stamping 12M new temporary residents, then yes, it is cheap. However, the latest version of CIR included extensive enforcement efforts, from sealing the border to getting ID for everybody, and using it to determine employment eligibility. That part is expensive. In fact, the task is so enormous that the cost seems prohibitive. BTW, where do those poor 12M get $5K? They only make 15K/year most of which is spent right away on bare essentials. No, doing this right will require a lot of money, and if it is not done right, why do it at all? The only answer I see is for "humanitarian reasons". Well, I cannot argue, those are good reasons, but the idea won't be popular during the depression.
  13. Legal and no longer waiting's Avatar
    "BTW, where do those poor 12M get $5K? They only make 15K/year most of which is spent right away on bare essentials. "

    From hard work and savings. The same place where they get millions of dollars every months to send to their home countries, the same place where that poor guy from Miami who worked years as a dishwasher got his $60K (remember, he was arrested for not declaring cash as he was returning home to build a house, and the money was taken from him?). If many Americans are to wazoo in debt and don't have a dime to their name, it does not mean that immigrants don't either.

    "LNLW: sure if by CIR you mean rubber stamping 12M new temporary residents, then yes, it is cheap. However, the latest version of CIR included extensive enforcement efforts, from sealing the border to getting ID for everybody, and using it to determine employment eligibility."

    I don't mean rubber stamping, I mean processing. Even if CIR gave questionable grounds for eligibility (is that what you call "rubber stamping"?), it never waived all grounds of admissibility or excludability. Please refer to INA for those.

    The second part... well, you know my position about a futile effort to seal the border. The best possible improvement to securing the border is to start legally admitting honest people.
  14. George Chell's Avatar
    "Well, I cannot argue, those are good reasons, but the idea won't be popular during the depression."

    Just implement the Huckabee-Romney plan, and throw 12 million illegals out of the country..putting another 3 million additional houses in the market..we will have a Great Depression!
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