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Greg Siskind on Immigration Law and Policy

CHERTOFF: FIRST WE BRING THE PUBLIC TO THEIR KNEES AND THEN WHEN THEY BEG FOR MERCY....

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Well, that's basically the current immigration policy of the country. Enforce to the point that the economy is falling apart and then have Congress finally create a workable guest worker program. And, by the way, we can deal with those twelve million people illegally here when Americans are feeling generous. Really, this is what he said in a roundtable with bloggers:



As we become more and more successful with enforcement we're going to see more and more stories like the one in the paper, The New York Times, today about the tomato farm that's going out of business because they can't get workers. And so we're going to have to then offer people who are no longer using illegal workers
some legal way to satisfy their labor needs. And that's why I think Congress will have to turn to expanding and streamlining the temporary worker program beyond what we've been able to do administratively. I think that
will be the next step. I think those two things are inevitable.



The last piece will be what do you do with the 12 million who are here -- the 11 million people who are here.
And I think that's the hardest nut to crack and the -- you know, once we establish the other pieces of this, the
public will have to decide whether they are -- how do they balance the humanitarian concerns, the respect for
the rule of law, and the practical realities in order to deal with this population. So that's my best estimate of
how it's going to turn out. Now, over what period of time? I can't tell you. But I think that in the end at least
we've begun to really deal with the problem seriously, and that's a good thing; that's a good thing.

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  1. George Chell's Avatar
    I think it will happen in the next congress..especially if we have a McCain Presidency and at least 55-57 Dems in the Senate. It will marginalize racists such as Sessions, DeMints and the whoremonger types, ie., the Vitters.
  2. Beta_mle's Avatar
    Amazing. I always thought that was the strategy, now it's confirmed. I believe in the rule of law, but I'm afraid that needy people are being destroyed in the process. Also, I fear that there are some people who are so mean that they don't mind if the economy is destroyed just to deny some people the dream.
  3. Sam's Avatar
    I too always figured that was the idea but, will the environment especially the Ocelot survive this madness: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/07/us/07land.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
  4. George Chell's Avatar
    "Also, I fear that there are some people who are so mean that they don't mind if the economy is destroyed just to deny some people the dream."

    I disagree. I fear that some people such as Kirkorian, Stein, Camarotta, Malanga and Heather MacDonald are so RACIST and some orgs such as FAIR, CIS and Numbers USA are so hell bent on preserving a white majority in this country that they dont mind if the economy is destroyed just to deny some non-white people the dream. These are the same people who are militant about gun rights perhaps preparing for the day when they have to hunt for a living...there wont be much of a modern economy. These are the same people who want to roll back taxes so that American education is decimated and at the same time they dont bring in foreign skills into the country.

    However, I am very certain it will not happen. Sixty minutes had an interesting program on China and Sovereign Wealth Funds. US is in debt, and part of it can be explained by taxes paid abroad due to jobs moved abroad. It is a moot point whether Americans are employed abroad or not. They dont pay taxes in this country as long as they make less than $80,000 and stay out of the country for eleven out of twelve months. If these Americans are hired abroad, they dont pay social security either. Singapore, Australia and Canada are the biggest beneficiaries of the US immigration policy. These Americans and foreigners pay taxes abroad, US looses tax revenue and then borrows from these countries through T Bills at a high interest rate. So, no, the corporation is not destroyed, the economy may not be destroyed, as we start importing foods from other countries..but foreigners will control the US economy and can bring in down if we dont tow their line. My question to Americans is whether preserving the status quo and majority status worth the risk of foreigners controlling the US economy. Racists such as Kirkorian and MacDonald think so. Perhaps they fear their kids marrying non-whites. But, I dont think the majority of the American folks believe this.
  5. George Chell's Avatar
    Greg:

    This may not be the appropriate site. However, Memphis gave your town a good year. In the game serious freshmen mistakes were made. I was surprised to note that there are only two seniors were in the team. They will be ranked again in the Top three in the country next year and should make another run at the title over the next year or two. I wish your home team all the best in less than seven months time, as long as they dont run into my team the Purdue Boilermakers who are supposed to be in top ten next year. Of course by then many other things would have ended such as the US elections and as usual another election cycle will begin in this land of perennial elections.
  6. Greg Siskind's Avatar
    Thanks George. It was a heartbreaking evening here at the Siskind house. You're right that it's a young team. I wish the NBA would hold off on raiding the colleges, but I know that's not going to happen. That probably means we'll lose the best younger players.
  7. Another voice's Avatar
    Sounds like a practical but harsh way to bring people to terms with the reality of the immigration debate, rather than just the inflammatory rhetoric. But it does not seems like a good strategy given the current condition of the economy that is to add further pressure to the labor part of the equation, but he may be right at the end, if people feel the pain in their lives of taking out a big chunk of the labor force out of circulation.

    By the way tomatoes, grapes, avocados are really getting expensive have you looked at the price lately!!! I guess is the labor shortage in California.
  8. Geroge Chell's Avatar
    Greg:

    May be Memphis should start recruiting in Africa. Kenyans are pretty tall.
  9. George Chell's Avatar
    Greg:

    I like this statement from this writer:

    "But Kansas and Memphis didn't get to Monday night's national championship game by recruiting future doctors, lawyers and Nobel prize-winning physicists."

    http://www.al.com/sports/birminghamnews/rmelick.ssf?/base/sports/1207642503106690.xml&coll=2

    He should add. They do that by recruiting foreign students...well may be not Memphis or Kansas, at least Purdue and MIT.
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