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Greg Siskind on Immigration Law and Policy

COULD LACK OF H-1B VISAS TOPPLE NEW YORK'S STATUS AS GLOBAL LEADER?

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  1. kthiru's Avatar
    This should be a good one for people who think H1B is for IT people
  2. Legal and no longer waiting's Avatar
    I am sure Roy will claim there is no shortage of qualified Americans in NYC area who want to make seven digits. The truth is - it is not about shortage - it is about people moving out and companies following them. Does not matter if there is an unemployed banker on every corner in Midtown, the companies will move where they can hire who they want, not who's a citizen.

    The article also pointed out the autrocity of not being able to work on H4. Stupid shit that will get this country behind competition.

    PS Two of my friends recently moved to London from New York. Both are HBS graduates, both worked on H1, and both were not in IT. Who wants to deal with stupid shit like that?
  3. George Chell's Avatar
    "I am sure Roy will claim there is no shortage of qualified Americans in NYC area who want to make seven digits. The truth is - it is not about shortage - it is about people moving out and companies following them. Does not matter if there is an unemployed banker on every corner in Midtown, the companies will move where they can hire who they want, not who's a citizen."

    There definitely would not be a shortage if we gave them an eight figure salary...ten million plus...we are giving American executives of corporations eight to ten figure salaries..but are they performing? They are not. Pay should be based on performance and productivity. Whether Mr. Lawson likes it or not Microsoft, Sun microsystems, etc. are all productive corporations with productive CEOs unlike many in the US airline industry. They would follow the employee..they have no obligation to hire US citizens, Singapore citizens or anyone else. One of the corporations recently told my US citizen friend that they are moving his unit to Singapore so that they can hire who they want..and he can move to Singapore or loose his job. He moved to Singapore and likes it very much.

    After the last recession corporations restructured and moved jobs abroad and reduction of H1-Bs to 65,000 help them make the decision. There is a whole article in Business Week in late January 2003 on this issue and they were not kidding or just threatening. I am afraid that corporations will move more jobs abroad during this recession and the lack of action on skilled migrant visas will help them make the decision.

    As far as Mr. Lawson is concerned, everyone wants to protect their territory. I could have stayed fighting the racists in Ag Econ and the back stabbers in Health Economics, but I packed and moved and now work on immigration economics..that is life!
  4. George Chell's Avatar
    "It's a 20th-century, pre-globalization mentality that thinks somehow American companies and jobs can grow if we cut ourselves off from foreign talent," she said."

    I really dont think that Kirkorian has a pre-globalization mentality. Has anyone heard him speak? He is very smart. He is just a racist as are most in CIS who would rather send jobs abroad than have this country become more non-white. He is not very different from a southern racists of the past, just a refined one..he just does not like the idea of a white minority in this country and higher unemployment and lost tax revenues due to jobs moving abroad, and cuts in education budget as a result are too small a price to pay for keeping this country white majority.
  5. Legal and no longer waiting's Avatar
    George, I was pointing out the erroneous assumption that Roy uses and almost made all of his opponents to believe - that H1B is only needed if there is a SHORTAGE of people in a specialty. If you look at the history of the economy, you will find out that adding talent when there is no "shortage" is just as beneficial to the economy as at the time of "shortage". That what happened in 1880-1920 when immigration was three times as high as it is today, and new people coming off the boat were still be able to contribute to the economy despite no formal "shortage" of labor.
  6. R. Lawson's Avatar
    I agree, it isn't just IT companies abusing H-1b workers. Now the nursing body shops are trying to out-do them: http://www.sunherald.com/447/story/450793.html
  7. WD's Avatar
    Why is Roy worried that the H1B laws are working and violators are getting punished? Isn't that a good news.

    Oh wait, PG and Roy have been arguing all along that H1B law doesn't work and hence H1B should be eliminated. Now that the law is being followed, he knows the quotas are going to be raised and his ilk have to compete on skills and not on place of birth/nationality. Naturally he's worried.

    Get used to Globalization Roy. It's good for your health.
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