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Greg Siskind on Immigration Law and Policy

THE GOVERNMENT THAT COULDN'T SHOOT STRAIGHT

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Michigan is paying a steep price because of cheap political theatrics on the part of two state leaders who thought being anti-immigration is the gift that keeps on giving. Now the taxpayers of the state will be paying a steep price for a long time as the state tries to repair its reputation as being an inviting place for international companies and top talent. Hopefully, Michigan voters will send a message to its leaders that playing games that damage the economic competitiveness of the state will result in being removed from office.

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  1. George Chell's Avatar
    Am I reading this right? As the law was previously written, a US citizen Virginia citizen like me could not get a driver's license in Michigan?
  2. JoeF's Avatar
    From the article:
    "We haven't got all the rules worked out quite yet," Land said. "But we are taking names and applications" and hope to process them soon."

    Somehow this reminds me of how CIS works... Did Mrs. Land work there in the past?
    Geez, they are proving to be the backwater state.
  3. hmm's Avatar
    The article is full of factual mistakes. There are so many that it seems the author has no clue (or much more likely, the author is intentionally misleading the readers, that is lying). This is not much different from how "antis" write about "illegals" only with the minus sign...

  4. JoeF's Avatar
    "The article is full of factual mistakes."
    Care to point them out?
    I don't see many mistakes.

  5. hmm's Avatar
    JoeF, did you read Attorney general's opinion? Did you read on how the DL rules changed right after it? I bet you did not. Anyway:

    "They managed to rule that nobody could get a driver's license who wasn't an American citizen living full-time in Michigan."

    Really? Last time I checked green card was okay too.

    "And though the Legislature has now belatedly "fixed" the problem, the rest of the world doesn't necessarily know that."

    Why quotation marks around fixed? The new law is great. I covers everybody (H4, those waiting for a waiver etc), that is everybody who is legally in the country. Now if the world learned about MI DL rule change in the first place, which I doubt because come on, who cares aside from those poor souls living in MI without a green card, but if they did learn it, they surely learned about the fix.

    "And she ruled that the attorney general's ruling didn't just apply to immigrants, but to anyone in Michigan."

    Nothing of this kind has happened as far as I know.

    "It almost seems to be saying that residents of other states, like Ohio or Pennsylvania, can't get drivers' licenses in Michigan."

    This was never an issue. It is not possible to get DL from two different states, I think. At least this is how it works for me. Every time I move I have to give up my old licence and get a new one.

    I don't know if the political analysis in the article makes sense, but given the above factual mistakes I would advise caution.
  6. JoeF's Avatar
    "I bet you did not."
    A nice way to start a flame war...

    I said I didn't see many mistakes. I didn't say I didn't see any. In particular, I didn't see the article "full of mistakes".

    "Why quotation marks around fixed? The new law is great."
    Except that it wasn't even necessary. The old law had worked fine for everybody before. The law "fixed" something that wasn't broken.
    This whole thing was an exercise in screwing things up that weren't broken. In doing so, the AG and the Secretary of State made Michigan the laughing stock of the nation, and harmed the state. Both should resign since because of that.
  7. The Avenger's Avatar
    Once something becomes a fad everybody and their republican representant wants to jump in the bandwagon. All them dumbasses in oakie cities and/or states want to be on the spotlight... "look mom, I'm a idiot too". This whole thing is getting so ridiculous that even the mexicans are rolling on the floor laughing. Congress, the other half of the circus, "surprisingly" doesn't plan to address the immigration issue in the near future. Too many years of "reality tv" and this is what we get fellas. Sad but true.
  8. hmm's Avatar
    I certainly agree that the fuss about driving licences in MI and elsewhere is silly, as has been discussed on this blog on multiple occasions. However, this particular article actually does harm because it spreads false information: most of what it says about the new law is simply wrong. It scares people into supporting a good cause by lying. This is pretty much like saying "one million Americans lost their lives in Iraq so let's stop the war". Even though I agree that the US should pull out, I would be still disgusted by the lie.

    And I do not get the comment that "[the fix] wasn't even necessary". The Michigan Attorney General and Legislature are not the same thing. The AG screwed things up, the legislature provided a fix. If it did not, lots of people in MI would be harmed. So the fix shows that there are lost of reasonable people in Michigan, even if their AG is an idiot or worse.

  9. JoeF's Avatar
    "And I do not get the comment that "[the fix] wasn't even necessary"."
    It only became necessary after the AG and Secretary of State screwed up. THAT's the issue. If they hadn't played their silly games, there would have been no need for a "fix."
    The real fix would have been for the AG and Secretary of State reverting themselves and saying a "mea culpa."
    There were enough people who alerted them before this all went through. But they wanted to play this silly game, and the legislature had no choice but to clean up to prevent further damage. That's why it is a "fix" in quotation marks. The AG and Secretary of State broke things without any need. Before the AG published his opinion, everything was fine. Illegals couldn't get DLs, and legals on H1, H4 or F1 could get DLs.
    I hope that explains my statement that the "fix" wasn't needed, if they had not screwed things up. Of course, once they had screwed things up, there was a need for somebody to clean up...


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