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AMERICAN JEWISH COMMITTEE WARNS CABLE NETWORKS ON IMMIGRATION HATE SPEECH

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Lest Lou Dobbs think that the Anti-Defamation League doesn't really speak for the country's Jewish community (he called them a joke, after all), the American Jewish Committee is providing them backup. Here is the full text of their press statement:

The
American Jewish Committee is urging the heads of major cable television
networks to ensure that the background of certain so-called immigration
experts appearing on news shows is revealed to the viewing audience.>>



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"It
is inappropriate and offensive for major television programs to provide
a microphone to individuals and organizations that promote hate,
espouse vigilantism, white supremacy, or even violence in the
immigration debate," AJC General Counsel Jeffrey Sinensky wrote in a
letter to the heads of CNN, FOX and MSNBC.>>



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"There
is no excuse for television talk show hosts and commentators failing to
investigate the backgrounds of the people they invite on their shows to
speak on the issue of immigration.">>



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The
AJC letter was delivered today to Jim Walton, president of CNN
Worldwide; Roger Ailes, chairman and CEO of FOX News Corporation; and
Phil Griffin, executive-in-charge of MSNBC. AJC has partnered with the
National Council of La Raza and its "We Can Stop the Hate" campaign
launched recently to counter the increasing rhetoric on the airwaves
that already has caused a rise in hate crimes against Latinos.>>



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AJC pointed out specifically that Lou Dobbs Tonight, The O'Reilly Factor, and MSNBC News Live offer
national platforms to spokespeople who represent known vigilante or
hate-promoting groups, including Jim Gilchrist and Chris Simcox of the
Minuteman Project and Dan Stein of the Federation for American
Immigration Reform (FAIR).  >>



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They
regularly appear on news programs as anti-immigration "expert
commentators" and pundits.  "Rarely is their status as a representative
of a vigilante group or one that promotes hate acknowledged or
challenged. Rarely do they face anyone with an opposing viewpoint,"
said Sinensky.>>



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In
addition, the AJC letter noted that spokespeople espousing vigilantism
and fear regularly appear on nightly news programs. They often speak in
code, calling immigrants "criminals," "an army of invaders," and
"diseased"; and children born to immigrants are referred to as "anchor
babies."  Many talk show hosts and commentators parrot this hate speech
on their broadcasts.>>



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"Hate
speech has no legitimate role in the media. History has shown
repeatedly that it can be the precursor to violence," said
Sinensky. "Issues such as immigration can be explored legitimately and
thoroughly without demonizing an entire group of people.">>



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AJC, the oldest human relations organization in the US has been a longstanding advocate for fair and open immigration, and a strong supporter of comprehensive immigration reform.>

















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  1. Another Voice's Avatar
    WOW I hope this can make waves with the TV Networks and cable channels.
  2. George Chell's Avatar
    Dan Stein of the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) is a big time racist who makes issue of non-white immigrants and computer programmers as taking jobs away from Americans, but has little or nothing to say about at least 5,000 actors from white countries such as the UK who technically unemploy aspiring American actors many of whom live on the streets of LA.

    They did not mention other racists such as Heather MacDonald and Steven Malanga of the Manhattan Institute and Steve Camarotta and Mark Kirkorian of the Center for Immigration Studies.
  3. R. Lawson's Avatar
    "Chrysler tech center workers may have lost jobs to H-1B contractors, union claims"

    http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9063099


    Man, these union people must be racist. Thinking they shouldn't be replaced by H-1b workers. (Sarcasm ++)

    I can see how the race and hate card is being invoked any chance you guys get in this debate.

    I guess we'll just wait and see what the NLRB has to say. If they rule in favor of the American workers - are they racist also?
  4. Another Voice's Avatar
    WOW I hope this can make waves with the TV Networks and cable channels.
  5. Greg Siskind's Avatar
    Roy - If the workers replaced by workers that work less expensively, then presumably the displaced workers will file a complaint with the Labor Department. Why don't you post on this when the DOL has reached a decision? Probably because you love to make accusations about exploitation and that the system allows this with no recourse to the worker even though there are measures in place that allow workers to complain. Even the article you link indicates that an investigation is needed before any conclusions are reached. But that doesn't help the narrative you're trying to create.

    If you were really about stopping exploitation as opposed to trying to limit competition, you would be focusing on helping people pursue claims of violations of the law as opposed to trying to simply shut the door on more H-1Bs. Of course, if there really are not very many violations happening, then this would explain a lot.

    Incidentally, folks might want to know that Computerworld has had perhaps the most anti-H-1B coverage of any publication in the country.
  6. R. Lawson's Avatar
    "Incidentally, folks might want to know that Computerworld has had perhaps the most anti-H-1B coverage of any publication in the country. "

    Computerworld is an IDG publication and the largest IT publisher on the planet. They now present both sides of this issue, although at first they would only present the corporate side of the argument.

    It was because of their biased reporting initially that the IT industry had some additional political cover to exploit H-1b workers. I've been reading their publications for years, so I know how they report on the matter.

    "If you were really about stopping exploitation as opposed to trying to limit competition, you would be focusing on helping people pursue claims of violations of the law"

    As far as our objectives and how we go about things, obviously you have little or no experience with labor law. If you knew much about the subject, you would know that the deck is stacked against those who file complaints. Rarely do workers who have had their rights violated also have the resources needed to fight a legal battle.

    HUNDREDS of complaints were filed because of the "H-1b only need apply" ads. Although there was ample evidence, the DOL didn't pursue a single case.

    As I recall, you opposed laws that made it easier for employees to sue. Do you oppose laws that make it easier for both American and immigrant workers to sue for labor and immigration violations by employers?

    If you were serious about a viable H-1b program, you would be lobbying to have labor complaints addressed. The sooner a fair system is implemented, the sooner you can go about your business and also have the ability politically to raise the H-1b cap.

    Finally, most H-1b workers are in the IT industry. Of course IT publications report the most on the issue.
  7. Greg Siskind's Avatar
    Say what you like about ComputerWorld, but I see all of the coverage and it's a publication that has a reputation. It doesn't matter that it has a big corporate parent. So does Lou Dobbs.

    As for the drum you've banged forever about H-1B exploitation, no one really takes you seriously. Show me some of the H-1B only ads you seem to think are a big problem. I've never seen one. In fact, the only place I've ever heard of this is from you and your allies.
  8. USC's Avatar
    "HUNDREDS of complaints were filed because of the "H-1b only need apply" ads."

    IIRC, you posted an example of such an ad. The conclusion drawn by those of us who are unbiased on this issue was that this was a minimum requirement rather than a qualification for the job. IOW, the employer didn't want to file papers with the DOL or INS and only those who already were work eligible (ie, USCs, GCers, H1bers etc) need only apply.

    "Although there was ample evidence, the DOL didn't pursue a single case."

    As this was fairly obvious even to us it is unsurprising that these complaints would have been treated as frivolous by the professionals at the DOL.
  9. R. Lawson's Avatar
    "Show me some of the H-1B only ads you seem to think are a big problem."

    You must be running around with your blinders on. Search Dice.com on any given day. You will find "H-1b only" ads. The PG archived these. John Miano I'm sure would be glad to send you everything he has. Some ads are more blatant than others.

    Do a simple search. You will find it. Plenty of evidence has already been provided and also made publicly.

    Here is an ad I just found. Notice, it doesn't say Software Engineer - it says H-1b visa holder. Companies are required to search for American workers first. Unfortunately, companies like this one spend their marketing dollars on a search for H-1b visa holders:

    http://seeker.dice.com/jobsearch/servlet/JobSearch?op=302&dockey=xml/a/8/a8bd59b129a1416ca7c92f0ce1b46405@endecaindex&source=19&FREE_TEXT=h-1b

    Title: H-1B Visa - FY 2008/9 Skills: New H-1B Sponsorship - L1/B1/ H4/ F1-OPT Visa

    Date: 2-5-2008 Location: Jersey City, NJ Area code: 201 Tax term: FULLTIME Pay rate: Market Length: Position ID: H-1BV2008 Dice ID: 10267642 Job description: Are you in L1/B1/ H4/ F1-OPT Visa? Send your resume to Financial Technology Group Intl for H1B Visa FY 2009

    Financial Technology Group Intl is an IT Consulting and Software Development company, providing a broad array of solutions customized for range of IT services.

    *******Apply early for FY 2009, start working from Oct 2008. *******

    We are currently seeking consultants with following skills for our 2008 H-1B Cap.
  10. Greg Siskind's Avatar
    Roy - No wonder you guys are a laughing stock. The employer is obviously conveying the message that they are willing to undertake visa sponsorship. They're not trying to exclude anyone. Quite the opposite, in fact. They're saying, in my opinion, that they're pretty desperate and will spend the $$ to sponsor someone for a visa. That you're folks read it the opposite way certainly doesn't give me much confidence in your competence. Go ahead and find a person with the needed credentials who is a US citizen and have them send a resume and see what happens. A lot of employers convey the opposite message - only citizens and green card holders need apply. This employer wants to make it clear that they are not in that category.
  11. AD's Avatar
    It seems that this type of situation can be resolved by requiring more disclosure in job ads. Something like USC/PR/VSN/VSE/LC where

    * LC indicates it is a FLC ad
    * USC to show it is open to citizens
    * PR if it is open to green card holders
    (some like defense and security are not)
    * VSN/VSE - whether open to new or existing visa holders
  12. George Chell's Avatar
    I think the whole argument might become mute as increasingly corporations move jobs abroad either throught outsourcing or through Foreign Direct Investment. Depending on your viewpoint, fortunately or unfortunately, the employers do hold the cards..it is their money..they can move the jobs abroad if they cannot bring H1-Bs here. Microsoft is in the process of moving jobs to Vancover, BC and I heard that they are considering Australia as well. Sure we can take away the tax breaks, but it would be offset by losses from taxes paid had the employees stayed and worked in this country.
  13. R. Lawson's Avatar
    "They're saying, in my opinion, that they're pretty desperate and will spend the $$ to sponsor someone for a visa. "

    They may need a lawyer if they keep discriminating against American workers. You should throw your hat in and see if that argument passes muster or not. You already seem to have their defense planned.

    Anyone who comes up with an argument like that is a laughing stock. Companies like the one in that job posting are clearly body shops, and the only American employee they employ most likely sweep the floors. No, that's probably not true either. That's a job Americans no longer want - right?
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