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NFAP REPORT: FAILURE TO LIBERALIZE H-1B PROGRAM KILLING AMERICAN COMPETITIVENESS

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The National Foundation for American Policy has just issued a report that lays out the case for increasing H-1B numbers and not passing the numerous anti-competitive "reforms" that are being promoted by those opposed to skilled immigrants.



This report should be required reading by every member of Congress who seeks to vote on H-1B measures. I



Incidentally, I'm quoted on page 27 in a passage discussing a proposal to audit companies that use Level 1 wages in determining the appropriate salary for an H-1B worker.



[Update - Some of you are reporting problems getting to the report on the NFAP web site. Here it is for direct download.Download 071206study.pdf ]

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  1. USC's Avatar
    "Incidentally, I'm quoted on page 27 in a passage discussing a proposal to audit companies that use Level 1 wages in determining the appropriate salary for an H-1B worker."

    Good job!
  2. R. Lawson's Avatar
    "I'm quoted on page 27 in a passage discussing a proposal to audit companies that use Level 1 wages in determining the appropriate salary for an H-1B worker.""


    Who is "I"? That would be a good thing - and probably help alleviate one of my major H-1b complaints. The best and brightest shouldn't be on the bottom rung of the pay scale amongst their peers.
  3. Greg Siskind's Avatar
    You're the one who sets the standard for the H-1B as the best and brightest. That's what we have the O-1 category for. The H-1B is for skilled and professional workers. Under your standard, only senior people would be allowed to immigrate (which I know would be just fine for you since it means no competition for Roy). But that's not the purpose of the H-1B category.

    And being in Level 1 doesn't mean that a person is at the bottom of the pay scale. It means that for people at a certain level of experience, this is the average salary. So a first year school teacher - a field, by the way, where we face dire shortages - on an H-1B would have to be paid a salary commensurate with a first year American-born teacher. That's not unreasonable.
  4. R. Lawson's Avatar
    "You're the one who sets the standard for the H-1B as the best and brightest. That's what we have the O-1 category for. "

    Make sure you clear that up with every reporter you talk to. They seem to think that the H-1b cap is preventing the next Einstein from arriving. I don't see you going out of your way to clear that up with them.

    They certainly aren't viable entrepreneurs - since they can't change jobs or work for themselves.

    If you abolished the H-1b visa, passed the SKIL bill (without H-1b of course) then you would have no caps on truly skilled workers.

    The truth is that tech companies aren't short of entry level workers. They are using the program as a labor arbitrage tool. That is discouraging American students from pursuing the occupation - why on Earth would they take a lower paying job? No wonder enrollment in computer science programs is dropping!

    You guys may have the money to pour into the pro H-1b marketing and lobbying campaign, but you certainly aren't winning the intellectual debate.

    Your goal is clearly to not hire an American worker.
  5. Greg Siskind's Avatar
    Your points are all clearly refuted in the NFAP report. I doubt you have read it or will read it (though I'm positive you'll either claim you have or dismiss it by saying it is biased and not worth reading).
  6. 's Avatar
    "So a first year school teacher - a field, by the way, where we face dire shortages - on an H-1B would have to be paid a salary commensurate with a first year American-born teacher. That's not unreasonable. "

    Greg - the lion's share goes to IT consulting firms. You know that! Your teacher argument is nonsense unless you introduce some reality into the discussion! This is primarly an IT visa. You know what the numbers say. Pesky facts.
  7. R. Lawson's Avatar
    "Your points are all clearly refuted in the NFAP report. "

    The report was written by tobacco lobbyists. WTF!!! Are they now moonlighting for the IT industry? I know this issue well enough to know that the NFAP is full of sh$t.
  8. Greg Siskind's Avatar
    >>Pesky facts.
  9. R. Lawson's Avatar
    Yeah Greg, we all know how Tobacco lobbyists have a long track record of telling the truth.

    They couldn't get a regular lobbyist to tell such a whopper, so they called in the tobacco industry. LMFAO!!!
  10. Legal and no longer waiting's Avatar
    It is NOT "primary an IT visa". IT is only half of H1s, and the report talks at length that salaries in IT are not hurt by H1s.

    So, don't pretend the other half does not exist. There is absolutely no justification for that.
  11. Legal and no longer waiting's Avatar
    Roy, you have no facts to prove your case other than the infamous "US companies will never move operations abroad because of worker shortage" - how's that working out for you, Roy?
  12. USC's Avatar
    Greg, Your link hasn't worked since the time you put this post up.

  13. R. Lawson's Avatar
    "Roy, you have no facts to prove your case other than the infamous "US companies will never move operations abroad because of worker shortage" - how's that working out for you, Roy?"

    Flooding the local market is our biggest problem right now. With the rising rupee and the devalued dollar, the cost savings in India are diminishing. That window is starting to close.

    So, your plan is to use a "study" by tobacco lobbyists to prove your point? LOL. Good luck with that. There are so many holes in that "study" that it's a joke.
  14. Legal and no longer waiting's Avatar
    "Flooding the local market is our biggest problem right now. "

    Blind leading the blind. If there is water in your house, it does not mean the house is flooded. In fact, removing every drop of water is going to make your dwelling unlivable.
  15. 's Avatar
    "If there is water in your house, it does not mean the house is flooded. In fact, removing every drop of water is going to make your dwelling unlivable."

    I'm sorry. I haven't ready Deepak Chopra's latest book.
  16. Sid's Avatar
    "If you abolished the H-1b visa, passed the SKIL bill (without H-1b of course) then you would have no caps on truly skilled workers."

    The SKIL bill would help me personally but I don't understand your fascination with a US degree. There are many colleges and universities that are as good as many of the top US universities. Why should graduates of these schools be excluded from the cap?

    If you really want a merit based GC, make a list of the top 100 colleges/universities for each major and make their graduates cap exempt.
  17. H1B 's Avatar
    "You guys may have the money to pour into the pro H-1b marketing and lobbying campaign, but you certainly aren't winning the intellectual debate. "

    I am a realist and I dont care about winning the debate. I care about winning. John Kerry won the foreign policy debate but he lost election. What matters is winning the game in the end.

    For me winning means not the increase in the H1B numbers but getting my PR as soon as possible and not making my life worse than as it is now. Dick Durbins "reform" want to deny my livlihood as long as his "reforms" are not implemented I am winning.

    I am just an average H1B worker and I dont "human traffic" H1BS.

    There are so many people that abuse H1B people.

  18. H1B's Avatar
    Winning for me also means denying a victory to my enemy(Dick Durbin and his Dream).
  19. Greg Siskind's Avatar
    Sorry about the links problem. I've corrected it and it should now work.
  20. R. Lawson's Avatar
    "For me winning means not the increase in the H1B numbers but getting my PR as soon as possible and not making my life worse than as it is now. "

    Gee that's exactly what I want for you and other H-1b holders. A ready supply of exploitable workers doesn't work out too well for me. The GC makes you instantly less exploitable.
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