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Greg Siskind on Immigration Law and Policy

DEMOCRATS TAKE ON THE ANTIS

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Well, not all the Democrats. Hilary Clinton has backtracked and is now saying she opposes Governor Spitzer's driver's license plan - a plan that would improve public safety and also make it possible for all drivers to get insurance, something that is just as much a form of protection for American victims of accidents as for the drivers. Barack Obama, on the other hand, has come out in support of Governor Spitzer.



Of course, such laws would be unnecessary if we had a functioning immigration system where we had rigorous immigration enforcement coupled with a meaningful way to earn legalization for those here illegally and a workable visa system for employers wanting to bring workers in to the country in the future. Most of the antis lose interest after the first item and many of the pros forget about the first.



Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico is publicly taking on Republican Tom Tancredo and is calling the Republican "an extremist." And he has voiced his support for a New Mexico law permitting unauthorized immigrants to get driver's licenses.





Despite the driver's license flap, Clinton and the rest of the Democrats have been consistent in supporting comprehensive immigration reform that includes rigorous enforcement, a path to legalization for unauthorized immigrants, a guest worker program and more numbers for family and employment-based immigrants. With the exception of Mayor Guiliani and Senator McCain, the GOP candidates have only been supporting more enforcement without the other needed reforms. And McCain recently announced he would no longer support a comprehensive approach due to pressure from the anti-immigrant wing of his party.



And the odds are that the GOP is going to be in quite a bind. Taking the anti-immigration position is necessary to get the party's nomination. But in the general election, they're likely to pay dearly. That's because most Americans rank immigration low on their priority list. Those that are anti-immigration were likely going to vote GOP. But Hispanics care greatly about immigration and the GOP had been making inroads in getting those votes. Now they are likely to be one of the groups that strongly support the Democrats. And the loss of those votes will likely make all the difference in the presidential race and in congressional races around the country.

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  1. Another voice's Avatar
    Funny the republicans finally accepted Univision's(Spanish Language network) invitation to hold a debate in Miami, this after refusing to do it at the initial invitation. I wonder what are they going to say to hispanic potential voters after all that is on record today in the news media, specially when it comes to immigration. Also if we take the Tsongas victory and the recent VA experience that should make it intersting for these republicans when it comes to taking a position to win the nomination and then flip floping when it comes to the general election.
  2. Legal and waiting's Avatar
    Go, Barak! I always liked you (well, being a hot guy may have helped his assessment). Republicans accepted the Univision invite? Oh, I think I will hang around in this country for another year - it is starting to get interesting ;-)
  3. g's Avatar
    "Go, Barak! I always liked you (well, being a hot guy may have helped his assessment). Republicans accepted the Univision invite? Oh, I think I will hang around in this country for another year - it is starting to get interesting ;-)"

    I really hope Barak wins the nomination and love to see what kind of chances he will have winning the general election. Does it matter if Republicans have accepted the Univision nomination ... Not really they will repeat the same thing in that debate too ...
  4. 's Avatar
    Like Obama is going to win the nomination. LOL. It's between Edwards and Clinton. Obama probably just lost the primary if he supports Spitzer's position given the unpopularity of the issue.
  5. Legal and waiting's Avatar
    No name, thank you for saying that! No, really, thank you. Your perception of reality is so convoluted, that it is a huge comfort that you think Obama is not getting the nomination - he must be pretty close to winning, then.
  6. hmm's Avatar
    I hate to agree with Mr.Noname that this story hurts Obama's chances. Obama has shown that he is ready to fight for what he believes in, and Presidents hopefuls are usually way more flexible.. a couple of opinion polls is all it takes to change their mind.
  7. hmm's Avatar
    I hate to agree with Mr.Noname that this story hurts Obama's chances. Obama has shown that he is ready to fight for what he believes in, and Presidents hopefuls are usually way more flexible.. a couple of opinion polls is all it takes to change their mind.
  8. 's Avatar
    "Presidents hopefuls are usually way more flexible.. a couple of opinion polls is all it takes to change their mind."

    That could describe Hillary ;-)
    She first was for Spitzer's plan, and now is against it...
    I hope the Dems don't elect Hillary. She would be the best help for the Republicans.
    If Hispanics are going to vote for the Dems is not overly clear, though. In the last elections, things like the push for gay marriage drove a lot of them to the GOP. Most Hispanics are social conservatives, probably due to the catholic influence.
  9. JoeF's Avatar
    "Presidents hopefuls are usually way more flexible.. a couple of opinion polls is all it takes to change their mind."

    That could describe Hillary ;-)
    She first was for Spitzer's plan, and now is against it...
    I hope the Dems don't elect Hillary. She would be the best help for the Republicans.
    If Hispanics are going to vote for the Dems is not overly clear, though. In the last elections, things like the push for gay marriage drove a lot of them to the GOP. Most Hispanics are social conservatives, probably due to the catholic influence.
  10. Dream Act guy's Avatar
    JoeF, you obviously don't know any Hispanics. Immigration is one of the major issues Hispanics care about, and it will be a major factor in their vote. If you want to know what will happen to the Hispanic vote in 2008, all you need to do is to look at what happened in 2006.

    Also, gay marriage is almost a spent issue. There's barely any life in it left especially compared to 2004.
  11. 's Avatar
    Well after that debate, one thing is clear. Obama stumbled and didn't win on the issue of drivers licenses.

    Obama's overall position on immigration seems rational - I just don't agree with him on licenses. But some of you guys are so far in left field that Kucinich is probably your guy.

    Seriously, you should all get Kucinich bumper stickers
  12. john's Avatar
    i think in yesterday's show Hillary once again showed she is the leader.
    Obama is a good guy, but i think he is not practical(rather immature) when he talks of international issues and even locals issues on healthcare and social security. we all know its all that not simple issues as he speaks (once again this reiterates politicians are liars). John edward is an honest guy, but frankly american president dont need to be most honest person.
    If you think all these issues, I think Hillary is the leader. We all know she flip flops, but she address issues more maturely and certainly is a right end democrat(close to republican). we certainly need a republican president in terms for budget and defence but a democrat president in terms of immigration/healthcare.
    I think Hillary is the better choice.
  13. 's Avatar
    "we certainly need a republican president in terms for budget and defence "

    Yeah they've done such a great job with the budget. LOL.

    These guys have taken us from a budget surplus to massive deficits. The fact that people still think they are conservatives and fiscally responsible is just hillareous to me.
  14. Another voice's Avatar
    "we certainly need a republican president in terms for budget and defence"

    Please that is just a political line during the elections. A strong president will full fill its duty in this areas if he is a democrat. The only difference is that the defense industry has deep pockets and once a republican is in power is time to go to war to re-pay the favors and make them lots of money even if the was is stupid like Iraq. And the last time the budget was balanced was when Bill Clinton was president and he is a democrat.

    "but a democrat president in terms of immigration/healthcare."

    Last Immigration reform was done by a republican Regan, Healthcare neither one of these parties will touch that with a 10 ft pole because it will require them to rise taxes.

    I will say that Hillary may do something on Healthcare and Immigration democrats may do it depending on the congress composition and their chances for 2012.
  15. L 's Avatar
    "Well after that debate, one thing is clear. Obama stumbled and didn't win on the issue of drivers licenses.

    Obama's overall position on immigration seems rational - I just don't agree with him on licenses. But some of you guys are so far in left field that Kucinich is probably your guy.
    "

    Exactly if he is so much into speaking his mind why not say if he is for or against the license plan. He is one more demagogue among the bunch. He is no Bobby Kennedy.

  16. 's Avatar
    "Exactly if he is so much into speaking his mind why not say if he is for or against the license plan."

    (assuming you are talking about Kucinich) He was "offended" at the term "illegal alien" and refused to answer the question until the term "undocumented" was used. He is a nut.

    Kucinich said he was for the license. I think he would support a free house, nurse, personal teacher, and neighborhood peace officer also. The biggest expenditure would be on the "Department of Peace" that he wants to create. Have I called him a nut yet?
  17. Another voice's Avatar
    "(assuming you are talking about Kucinich)"

    Why is what this guy says important he has no chance of winning the nomination so its really irrelevant what he says or not.
  18. L 's Avatar
    "assuming you are talking about Kucinich) He was "offended" at the term "illegal alien" and refused to answer the question until the term "undocumented" was used. He is a nut.

    Kucinich said he was for the license. I think he would support a free house, nurse, personal teacher, and neighborhood peace officer also. The biggest expenditure would be on the "Department of Peace" that he wants to create. Have I called him a nut yet?"

    I am talking about Mr. Obama , Kucinich is a nutjob when it comes to immigration. He is for handing out for citizenship to illegals but he will be totally opposed to a guest worker program. He will be for punishing employees who employ illegals but he will be opposed to punishing illegals who fake the identity of someone else.

    Kusisnich on the left and Tancredo on the right both of them are nutjobs.

    And what this "Department of Piece" will do?

    Hope a single party will not control the whole government after next elections.


    "I think he would support a free house, nurse, personal teacher, and neighborhood peace officer also"

    And he would pay for all of the above services by rolling back tax cuts for top 2% rich people

  19. 's Avatar
    "No name, thank you for saying that! No, really, thank you. Your perception of reality is so convoluted, that it is a huge comfort that you think Obama is not getting the nomination - he must be pretty close to winning, then."

    Hope Mr. Obama wins the nomination and loses the general election. I can only imagine what kind of agenda illegal immigrant senator Durbin would be pushing if junior senator from Illionois becomes president.
  20. JoeF's Avatar
    "JoeF, you obviously don't know any Hispanics."

    LOL. I live in SoCal, in a city that is largely Hispanic...
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