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Greg Siskind on Immigration Law and Policy

NURSE, H-1B FEES TORPEDOED FROM BUDGET BILL

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I have learned that the immigration provisions that would have created 61,000 additional green cards for nurses as well as added a $3500 fee to H-1B visas have not survived the conference committee and will not be a part of the bill sent to the President (which he is set to veto). There is much speculation as to why this happened. Many people were deeply troubled by the H-1B and its impact on non-profit and smaller employers. In order to allow Senator Grassley to save face, the push was made to strip all immigration provisions out, even though the H-1B fee opponents likely supported the nurses. We also understand the California Nurses Association, the most vocal anti-immigration nursing group in the country, worked behind the scenes to try and kill the nursing provision. Nice that they care so much about their patients and would rather push death rates up rather than immediately dealing with the nursing crisis.

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  1. Sid's Avatar
    Very strange. I never saw the connection between the visa recapture and the H-1B fee increase anyway. The H-1B fee increase was not likely to fly solo without any increase in the quota.

    I hope an article is published highlighting the CA Nurses Association's role in scuttling the nursing provision.

    I think this indicates that standalone bills also do not have a good chance. Like the NBA player trades, bills have to be pushed in pairs. Durbin/Grassley for SKIL, DREAM for STRIVE.

    I don't see anything happening till 2009.
  2. AC's Avatar
    Such a shame for the entire conference committee. They shouldn't be where they are in the first place if they worry more about "saving face" than about the people/public who got them there positions to ensure public's best interests.

    Nurse and physical therapist should not even be compared to H-1B visas. Both are so different. Nursing shortage is a national issue, it should be picked up my the media and I hope some day it leads to a national outrage. Staff coverage in nursing homes is pathetic at best.

    I can't beleive it, such a bunch of high esteemed ignorant people are running this successful nation.
  3. 's Avatar
    On the nursing situation, it is no surprise. Americans have been exceedingly tolerant to a fault of anti-competitive practices in healthcare services. IMO, many people will benefit from lower prices and greater access to care if healthcare services are liberalized willy-nilly. We hear whining about healthcare all the time, so I wonder why there isn't greater political support for this - in fact things seem to be moving in the other direction what with Dems like Carter sounding off against importing nurses.
  4. Legal Immi's Avatar
    "Dems like Carter sounding off against importing nurses"

    I respect Mr. Carter for so many things but I completely disagree with him if he tries to imply that somehow Africas health care problems are caused by doctors immigration to U.S.A.

    Corruption and lack of oppurtunities in "third world" are not caused by skilled workers migration but they are the one of the catalysts for migration of skilled workers from "third world".

    And some how these dems in general have a problem with skilled immigration as a whole. They dont seem to have any problem with less skilled/illegal immigration.
  5. Alex's Avatar
    Greg,

    is it 100% sure, can you verify?

    my understanding that if it is correct then we can be sure that no legistlation will be made for nurses atleast untill Januar.

    Please Please reply
  6. EB3INDIA2004 's Avatar
    "I don't see anything happening till 2009."

    I don't see anything happeing till 2009 or 2013, I personally dont think its a bad thing for me either. Anytime these guys try something with EB immigration , it makes me feel status quo is better than proposed treatment for EB immigration.
  7. Greg Siskind's Avatar
    >>100% sure
  8. Lou Dobbs's Avatar
    http://www.rediff.com/money/2007/nov/02visa.htm
  9. LegalImmi's Avatar
    Thank God, it failed finally. H1B fee increase is a stupid idea. If some piece meal bill is passed, then other immigration issues will be forgotten. It is better to fail so that they will try for CIR again.
  10. Dream Act guy's Avatar
    Greg,

    What other opportunities are there for the nursing provision to be attached in November?
  11. Sid's Avatar
    "Anytime these guys try something with EB immigration , it makes me feel status quo is better than proposed treatment for EB immigration."

    I don't blame you for feeling this way. The CIR made me wake up and take notice of the bills being pushed and it's very obvious that they have nothing to do with common sense or logic and everything to do with lobbying. Even the ones that are less objectionable are only short term fixes.

    When simple amendments like the recapture of visa numbers for nurses fail to pass, you've to wonder whether this country has it's priorities in place. When a person from India says that the health care system in this country is screwed up, I think it should be taken seriously.
  12. EB3INDIA2004 's Avatar
    "The CIR made me wake up and take notice of the bills being pushed and it's very obvious that they have nothing to do with common sense or logic and everything to do with lobbying"

    Do you remember the famous quote by one of the "lions" of the senate .."Stakeholders have to agree"..

    Hope leaders like Durbin and Grassely are cut to their appropriate size by these setbacks and learn how to bargain.

    I personally support any proposal/bill/law/rule that reduces my wait time combined with any other proposal/bill/law/rule. Call me selfish I dont care.
  13. Nitin's Avatar
    "When a person from India says that the health care system in this country is screwed up, I think it should be taken seriously."

    Well said. I've often felt that my health care was better in India at 1/10000th the price.
  14. EB3INDIA2004 's Avatar
    "The CIR made me wake up and take notice of the bills being pushed and it's very obvious that they have nothing to do with common sense or logic and everything to do with lobbying"

    Do you remember the famous quote by one of the "lions" of the senate .."Stakeholders have to agree"..

    Hope leaders like Durbin and Grassely are cut to their appropriate size by these setbacks and learn how to bargain.

    I personally support any proposal/bill/law/rule that reduces my wait time combined with any other proposal/bill/law/rule. Call me selfish I dont care.
  15. Greg Siskind's Avatar
    >>Greg, What other opportunities are there for the nursing provision to be attached in November?
  16. john's Avatar
    "Anytime these guys try something with EB immigration , it makes me feel status quo is better than proposed treatment for EB immigration."
    guys i think there is a game here. Either dems or reps are trying not to pass a bill. They always add some part that pro immigrants dot agree, so that bill will eventually fail.... Here nurse visa recpature and h1b fee hike (why the hell ...a fee hike after their record profits. who gets this novel ideas.) Even in CIR they introduced clauses that pro immigrant lobby didn't like. So at the end all relieved when the bill failed.
    This is a game I think. not sure whats the goal tho..isnt this a deadlock.And we have a president who is good at veto. so nothing moves.. we have to culture some brain celss and give in capsule form so some of these people can improve.

    Ofcourse dollar US economy and housing market is going down..loudobb's middle class if going down. only thing goin up are gas prices and spending....poor americans..they are waiting for the worst news after Xmas. god bless america..
  17. EB3INDIA2004 's Avatar
    Did any one of you watch the last dems debate how the guys jumped on Ms. Clinton when she suggested that issuing drivers licenses may not be a bad idea.Isn't it height of hypocrosy that senators like Dodd dont have a problem with faster path citizenship for some dream act benificiaries but they have a problem with granting drivers licenses.
  18. 's Avatar

    I think the trauma associated with this entire process making many future citizens understand how the legislation system of this country works. It is surely helping in that way :-)
  19. Dream Act guy's Avatar
    I dont want to derail the thread, but only Dodd came out against driver's licenses for undocumented immigrants. Obama, for instance, said it was the right idea, and they were mainly criticizing Hillary for her evasiveness on the issue not for her support for driver's licenses for undocumented workers.

    Let's get back to topic though.
  20. Andy's Avatar
    It seems that we are stuck in this long traffic....and the bad thing is, the light is RED!
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