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Greg Siskind on Immigration Law and Policy

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While I feel bad for many of the people swept up in an ICE, I understand ICE officials have a job to do. But that does not excuse the abusive and roughshod behavior that has been widely reported of late. Today there are reports in the NY Times and Newsday of "out of control" ICE officers in a raid in Nassau County, New York that bring shame to that agency and simply do not reflect American values. We're not a third rate dictatorship with unprofessional law enforcement officers terrorizing the country's residents. Just because the country is in an "enforcement mindset" does not give license to ICE officers to act without civility.

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  1. Middle Ground's Avatar
    Politically, these guys are idiots. If they want to be successful go after illegal employers, not illegal aliens.

    And I'm ok if these employers get a couple shiners in the process ;-)

    Do they want to solve the illegal immigration problem, or do they want to kick around poor Mexicans?

    Although I am way more of a hardliner than you guys on this, I think it is a wasted effort to chase around immigrants and build fences. The best way to solve the problem is workplace enforcement.

    One way to be humanitarian about the whole thing is to fine the companies that do this, and use those fines to provide families with relocation money (or vouchers) should they choose to return voluntarily to their home countries.
  2. Another voice's Avatar
    "Although I am way more of a hardliner than you guys on this, I think it is a wasted effort to chase around immigrants and build fences. The best way to solve the problem is workplace enforcement."

    These poeple are only doing this to save face with the american public and in order for them to get more funding for congress. They also have to have something toi report in their oversight hearings in congress.

    "One way to be humanitarian about the whole thing is to fine the companies that do this, and use those fines to provide families with relocation money (or vouchers) should they choose to return voluntarily to their home countries."

    Where will you get 12 million people to fill all of those jobs and how will your proposed solution will repair the finacial distater that companies and the economy will endure after paying all of those fines specially the more immigrant dependent industries such as: agriculture, contsruction, Hospitality, landscaping, Food processing etc.....
  3. H1B's Avatar

    Before they go after employers, employers should be provided with a fool proof system to verify ones eligibility to work.

    Some how people want to make us beleive that deporting an undocumented person is inhumane and jumping the border or overstatying the visa is not abuse of the system but having an H1B visa and working legally and paying taxes and waiting in line for green card is an abuse of the system .

    Any given day abuse of H1B system is much smaller compared to undocumented immigrant abuse.

    Shame on you Mr. Durbin and his supporters.
  4. Middle Ground's Avatar
    "Where will you get 12 million people to fill all of those jobs"

    Some sort of legalization path for the millions already here. I don't think that path should include people who recently moved here, or felons. I'm not sure what the cut-off date should be. I'm sure it will be hotly debated.

    If we don't crack down on employers, there will be no reason for anyone to obey the law.
  5. Middle Ground's Avatar
    "Shame on you Mr. Durbin and his supporters. "

    Senator Durbin's position on the H-1b is to close loopholes. You can be certain that after those loopholes are closed, Greg and company will then have the political leverage to raise the cap.

    If you want more H-1b visas you should be embracing the Durbin/Grassley legislation. Until something similar to that or the Pascrell legislation passes, we are going to fight hard for worker protections. Close the loopholes and most opposition goes away. It will be Rob Sanchez and a few anal retentive people left behind.

    We have a history. Don't ask ;-)
  6. Legal Immi's Avatar
    "If you want more H-1b visas you should be embracing the Durbin/Grassley legislation"

    I personally could care less about the H1B cap. For me its all about the legal immigration reform. My opposition to Durbin and company is they want to make my life miserable and kick me out while embracing the amnesty for illegal immigrants it is disgusting.

    As long you guys call me cheap labor I will oppose anything and everything self loathing Ron Hira does.

    Btw there is one good thing in Durbins bill its about making it a law to share the immigration documents.
  7. Middle Ground's Avatar
    "My opposition to Durbin and company is they want to make my life miserable and kick me out "

    Did we read the same bill? I didn't see anything of the sort. Please, tell me what in his amendment does anything remotely close to what you have described.
  8. 's Avatar
    On Durbin's bill:

    I think there is some confusion around whether the recruiting provisions apply to H1B extensions and transfers or only for initial petitions.

    People would be in trouble if recruiting applied to extensions and transfers, because it raises the cost for continuing employment and effectively amounts to revisiting a decision that was taken when the initial cap-subject petition was approved.

    Plus the recruiting provision does not make sense for extensions and transfers if the H1B employee already has a pending or certified application for labor certification.
  9. Middle Ground's Avatar
    "recruiting provisions apply to H1B extensions and transfers or only for initial petitions. "

    I could support a grandfather rule, as to not harm those already in the workforce. I'm not sure the Durbin legislation would impact those already here.

    However, recruiters/body shops are by far the biggest violators of the system. And especially so in the IT industry. I don't think job placement shops should be able to sponsor H-1b visas. Only the direct employer should be the sponsor - just like is done with the L1 visa.

    H-1b visa holders should be working onsite, on their employer's property.
  10. Legal and waiting's Avatar
    Hey, welcome back, Roy.
  11. Sid's Avatar
    MG,

    what you are effectively saying is that McKinsey, BCG, Booz-Allen-Hamilton, Bain, Delliote Consulting, etc. should not be able to hire H-1B's.

    Now, you'll come up with another clause that this rule should be applied only to IT consulting companies.

    Let's use all your suggestions for improving the H-1B program and add a clause - only for the IT industry.
  12. Legal Immi's Avatar
    And Durbins bill does not offer any exemptions for the people whose green card petitions are pending for ages. There are so many people who waited for their permanent labor certification to be approved for years.

    " I'm not sure the Durbin legislation would impact those already here."

    Unless an exemption is specifically made for the people whose green card application is already pending, it would affect everyone and the intention of the bill is to screw all the H1B people.


    "However, recruiters/body shops are by far the biggest violators of the system."

    What is the violation that these companies are doing? If it is already a violation then why cant these agencies enforce the rules? How adding more conditions on the program would help if agencies are not capaple of enforcing existing laws?
  13. Legal Immi's Avatar
    " think there is some confusion around whether the recruiting provisions apply to H1B extensions and transfers or only for initial petitions.

    People would be in trouble if recruiting applied to extensions and transfers, because it raises the cost for continuing employment and effectively amounts to revisiting a decision that was taken when the initial cap-subject petition was approved.

    Plus the recruiting provision does not make sense for extensions and transfers if the H1B employee already has a pending or certified application for labor certification.

    "

    There is no confusion as far as the text of the legislation is concerned. Their intention is to make you pay for social security till you get 38 points and kick you out.
  14. Legal Immi's Avatar
    "I don't think that path should include people who recently moved here, or felons. I'm not sure what the cut-off date should be. I'm sure it will be hotly debated"

    If you look at the cut off dates that were established for legal immigrants and illegal immigrants in the proposed and failed CIR it was totally disgusting.

    As far as the determination of felons Congress was trying to mandate a 24 hour time period for completing the background check. Even for legal immigrants that provide all the documents including arrival cards and addresses sometimes it takes more than 4 to 5 years to complete the name check. How on the earth these lawmakers thought it is possible to complete the background checks in 24 hours for these undocumented people. The so called Z visa was nothing but a green card for all practical purposes.
  15. Middle Ground's Avatar
    "Let's use all your suggestions for improving the H-1B program and add a clause - only for the IT industry."

    OK, works for me.

    "If it is already a violation then why cant these agencies enforce the rules? "

    Fundementally, I don't think it makes sense to allow a business primarily engaged in offshore outsourcing to sponsor an H-1b visa. Or a company that is a body shop.

    Our immigration policy should not enable the offshoring of jobs. That would be stupid.
  16. Middle Ground's Avatar
    "And Durbins bill does not offer any exemptions for the people whose green card petitions are pending for ages. There are so many people who waited for their permanent labor certification to be approved for years. "

    People seem very angry that they aren't able to become permanent residents on a temporary visa. Was there some confusion on what the word temporary meant?
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