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ACTION ALERT: SENATE LIKELY TO VOTE ON DREAM ACT THIS WEEK

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The Senate is set to vote to add the DREAM Act to the Department of Defense appropriations bill this week. Why that bill? Because one of the paths to permanent residency for young folks is through military service. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE call your Senators and urge them to support DREAM. Here's an action alert from the National Immigration Law Center:



SENATE LIKELY TO VOTE ON DREAM ACT
THIS WEEK!


***IMMEDIATE ACTION
NEEDED***


Monday, September 17,
2007


Today,
Senator Richard Durbin (D-IL), Chuck Hagel (R-NE) and Richard Lugar (R-IN) will
introduce the DREAM Act as an amendment to H.R. 1585, the Department of Defense
authorization bill, which returns to the Senate floor for debate this morning.
You may remember that the Department of Defense authorization bill was debated
in mid-July but was pulled for reasons unrelated to the DREAM
Act.


The DREAM
Act would provide a 6-year path to permanent residence and eventual citizenship
for individuals brought to the U.S. years ago as undocumented children if they
graduate from high school and continue on to college or military
service.


This may be
the best chance this year for the DREAM Act to become law (although most likely
it will not be the last
opportunity). If the amendment passes, the DREAM Act would stand an
excellent chance of becoming law this year. The amendment will need 60 votes to
pass.


We do not
yet know when the vote will be, and it is possible that procedural obstacles
could prevent one from occurring at all. But regardless, it is imperative for
all DREAM Act supporters to call your Senators and click here to send an e-mail message to them today, and again
tomorrow, and again every day until the vote occurs. You can find your Senators'
phone numbers here.


This time,
even more than the last time the amendment was set for consideration,
anti-immigrant groups have come out swinging by spreading falsehoods about the
DREAM Act in an attempt to inflame their base to intimidate Senators like they
did in the Senate debate about immigration reform. But DREAM Act supporters are
passionate too. We can and must fight back and match their intensity.


CALL BOTH OF YOUR
SENATORS AND TELL THEM


"PLEASE VOTE FOR
THE DURBIN-HAGEL-LUGAR
DREAM ACT AMENDMENT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF
DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION BILL
SO THAT IMMIGRANT STUDENTS BROUGHT HERE AS
CHILDREN
CAN REALIZE THEIR POTENTIAL"
 


Your Senators' phone
numbers are online at:
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

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  1. Middle Ground's Avatar
    This is very pro-immigrant of Durbin. It sounds like a fair law. It also gives an incentive for children of illegal immigrants to go to college or serve in the military. I wish more Senators would send their kids in the military. Why do the poor fight our wars?

    I also wonder how many people will call Durbin anti-immigrant when he introduces the Durbin/Grassley legislation again to curb abuses regarding the H-1b and L-1 visas.
  2. drew from immigrants list's Avatar
    If you look at his NumbersUSA Profile (which you basically have to flip the scores on) - http://profiles.numbersusa.com/improfile.php3?DistSend=IL&VIPID=255 , Durbin's record seems pro-immigrant on everything except as they call it "importing specific foreign workers." Here's the statements from Durbin's Senate website on H1-Bs & DREAM Act:

    "H1B Visas

    The H-1B visa program allows American companies and universities to employ temporary foreign workers who have the equivalent of a U.S. bachelor's degree in a job category that is considered by the U.S. Citizenship & Immigration Services to be a "specialty occupation." Supporters claim the H-1B program helps the American economy by allowing companies to hire needed foreign workers.

    The reality is that too many H-1B visas are being used to facilitate the outsourcing of American jobs to other countries. Some employers have abused the H-1B program, using it to bypass qualified Americans. I want to set up safeguards for American workers, and provide much-needed oversight and enforcement of employers who fail to abide by the law. Our immigration policy should seek to complement our U.S. workforce, not replace it.

    DREAM Act

    The Development, Relief and Education of Alien Minors Act, or DREAM Act, is a narrowly-tailored, bipartisan bill that would provide immigration relief to a select group of students who grew up in the United States, who have good moral character, and who are pursuing a college education or have enlisted in the military. In other words: if you came to the United States before the age of 16, if you have lived in this country for at least five years, if you graduate from high school, and then if you will complete either two years of college or two years of service in the military, we will give you an opportunity for legal status in America. The DREAM Act would also return to states the authority to determine whether to grant in-state tuition to state residents regardless of immigration status. "
  3. Legal and waiting's Avatar
    I am sorry, but I don't get the 'facsilitate outsourcing' argument. The so called 'outsourcing' companies dont' really care where their workers work. They choose to bring someone to US on H1. If they are not given the choice, they will just employ that person overseas, with little impact on their business. So, if H1 visas are available, there will be the opposite of outsourcing - the job and the person holding it will move to US. I really don't get this argument, it seams very counter-intuitive to me.
  4. Legal and waiting's Avatar
    Middle, there is a very simple way to curb abuses of H1 - remove the quotas and make H1 fully portable (only first employer needs to petition, then employee can change jobs by self petitioning for a transfer). Deregulation will make it inefficient for companies to bring cheap labor, since these people will just move to better paying jobs. Why not let the market regulate?
  5. Middle Ground's Avatar
    "The so called 'outsourcing' companies dont' really care where their workers work. "

    You have absolutely no understanding of how offshoring works. The largest users of the H-1b program are offshore service providers. They do care that they have feet on the ground here. These are the "facilitators" between the offshore teams and onshore clients. If they had to hire Americans to fill those roles, the cost of offshoring would rise. Or if they had to pay their H-1b employees market rates, the same thing would occur.
  6. chris's Avatar
    Here is info from numbersusa.com



    THE SWING VOTE LIST FOR THE DREAM ACT


    Alabama: Shelby
    Alaska: Murkowski, Stevens
    Arkansas: Pryor
    Colorado: Allard
    Georgia: Chambliss, Isakson
    Idaho: Crapo
    Indiana: Bayh
    Iowa: Grassley, Harkin
    Kansas: Brownback,Roberts
    Kentucky: McConnell
    Louisiana: Landrieu
    Maine: Collins
    Michigan: Stabenow
    Minnesota: Coleman
    Mississippi: Cochran
    Missouri: Bond, McCaskill
    Montana: Baucus, Tester
    Nebraska: Nelson (Ben)
    Nevada: Ensign
    New Hampshire: Sununu
    New Mexico: Bingaman, Domenici
    North Carolina: Burr, Dole
    North Dakota: Dorgan
    Ohio: Brown, Voinovich
    Oklahoma: Coburn
    Oregon: Smith
    South Carolina: DeMint
    South Dakota: *Johnson, Thune
    Tennessee: Alexander, Corker
    Texas: Cornyn, Hutchison
    Utah: Hatch
    Vermont: Sanders
    Virginia: Warner, Webb
    West Virginia: Byrd, Rockefeller
    Wyoming: Enzi, Barrasso

    If you look at their link: http://www.numbersusa.com/index
    the anti's are calling these people.
    In my opinion, the pro-immigrant groups need to be calling
    specifically these same people.

    So, here's the info Greg if you can use it.

    I also believe if any of these are your senators you should
    contact through the direct links Greg Siskind provided.
    If they are not you could contact them through the Senate
    switchboard at 202-224-3121.

    Urge the Senator to vote YES on the Dream Act.





  7. Middle Ground's Avatar
    "Middle, there is a very simple way to curb abuses of H1 - remove the quotas and make H1 fully portable "

    Removing the quotas has nothing to do with removing abuse. I agree that making it FULLY portable would help. So would a rating system based on education, experience, and salary.
  8. Legal and waiting's Avatar
    "Removing the quotas has nothing to do with removing abuse."

    It absolutely does. With the quotas as they are now, only companies that "specialize" in H1Bs can afford to hire them. They don't care if person A, B or C gets them, they are just going to file a bunch of petitions and see who's going to get the winnign ticket.

    Most "normal" companies do not want to touch H1B with a 10-foot pole - who has time to wait for 8-18 months for a worker to join, and on top of it, there is no guarantee that this person WILL join? Removing quotas will add a lot more companies to the H1 pool. If the quotas stay where they are, very soon for an H1 person it will be a choice between a very bad employer and just a bad employer.
  9. Middle Ground's Avatar
    "It absolutely does. With the quotas as they are now, only companies that "specialize" in H1Bs can afford to hire them. They don't care if person A, B or C gets them, they are just going to file a bunch of petitions and see who's going to get the winnign ticket."

    Not if the program is merit based. You just described a key problem with the program. It shouldn't matter who filed the most. It should be based on the qualifications of the immigrant.

    Corporations can use the l-1 visa for management positions. They need to compete for the same pool of labor just like anyone else.

    What you are arguing for is a labor subsidy. And a formula that would put downward pressure on American wages. We have had about enough of that.
  10. Legal and waiting's Avatar
    First, there is absolutely no evidence that immigration in general and H1Bs in particular put any downward pressure on American wages.

    Whatever you do in your system, if it makes corporations wait for more than 2 months to hire a worker, it will take most of good employers out of the system. I will not hire a worker if I have to wait for 6 month for him/her to start, let alone a year or 18 months. I will not participate in an auction that is held once a year - I need a 100% assurance that a worker can start in 2 months, that is it. So, if you want to attract bona fide employers, there should be no quota, period.
  11. 's Avatar
    >> This is very pro-immigrant of Durbin.

    A clarification. This is pro-poor of Durbin. The left will always serve the poor as that is how they get elected.

    It is coincidental that this happens to be pro-immigrant.
  12. a's Avatar
    "I also wonder how many people will call Durbin anti-immigrant when he introduces the Durbin/Grassley legislation again to curb abuses regarding the H-1b and L-1 visas."

    If Durbin is so worried about abuses in immigration system, he should be more worried about the 12 to 20 million people being present in the country illegally without paying into system. All the people on H1B or L1 visas is not more than a million at any given point of time.

    If he is worried about legal immigrants taking away jobs , I am not sure why he would want to give green cards to 12 to 20 million people overnight. What is the impact of these kind of policies of workforce?

    He is anti legal immigrant.

    How giving green cards to 12 to 20 million people now going to stop future abuses (illegal immigration) from occuring.
  13. Legal Immi's Avatar
    "Not if the program is merit based. You just described a key problem with the program. It shouldn't matter who filed the most. It should be based on the qualifications of the immigrant."


    If company is going to hire , it is based on what company needs. A company may need just a programmer with college degree rather than someone with a Phd.

  14. Legal's Avatar
    "A clarification. This is pro-poor of Durbin. The left will always serve the poor as that is how they get elected."

    you are 100% correct, Here in this country left wants to distribute poverty by importing more poor by their immigration policies.
  15. Suffocate Them's Avatar
    And the companies planning to put more restrictions on onsite (H1-B) employees

    http://www.rediff.com/money/2007/sep/08onsite.htm


  16. Legal and waiting's Avatar
    This country was "importing" (where did you get this word from? NumbersUSA?) four times as many poor people 100 years ago, and guess what - it all worked out just fine. There is no proof that bringing in poor people is detrimental to the economy (though, there is probably an agrument that pringing skilled people is more positive to the economy than bringing poor people, but neither has a negative impact).
  17. 's Avatar
    "There is no proof that bringing in poor people is detrimental to the economy"

    I don't think you get the point. The point is Durbin is doing this not because he is pro-immigrant but because it helps the left protect and grow its base.

    It might help if you read Marx.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx
  18. 's Avatar
    To spell it out:

    Anything that helps the proletariat without helping the capitalist is a +ve.
  19. grouchy's Avatar
    Legal and waiting - it seems to me that your clown ideas would only make the worse things worst. Where on earth did you get that very bad idea? Imagine what will happen to you & your family in the future when the government will not impose the quota, esp on H-1Bs. Loosening the flows of the H1B visas would not be fair of course, to the american people and there's a lot more disadvantages that i'll let you now think of. Congress knew beforehand the impact on american people if they put an unlimited # of H-1Bs. The only argument that the american business community has is that for congress to raise the numbers of quota/year and NOT your fancy idea that you're claiming about. For your information,congress put that quota for the country's protection. Furthermore, it would be used for fair and even distribution on every country who would apply for work in the US. Wait, I will surely tell you that if there's high supplies and low demands there would be unimaginable direct cause and effect particularly, on wages.
  20. Legal and waiting's Avatar
    grouchy, personal attacks is how you are trying to make your absense of ideas look better.

    Nothing bad will happen to my family. Canada has a temporary worker program with no quotas, and has had it for a while. What happened to them? Hihger economic growth, that's what happened. And by the way, if the US is not going to change its stupid policies, I am planning to move to a country that does not have stupid quotas - for the benefit of my children. The US is going to stagnate if these policies continue, and I want my children to grow up in a true fast paced competitive economy.

    Most economists will tell you that the quota does not protect the country, if anything, it hurts the country. You need to take Economics 102, where they will tell you how the law of supply and demand works on the labor market. Your ignorance rivals that of GWB.
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