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SESSIONS WARNS THAT VOTES ON AGJOBS AND DREAM ACT ARE COMING SOON

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Congressional Quarterly is reporting that Senator Jeff Sessions, the anti-immigration Senator who led the opposition to the comprehensive immigration reform bill in the Senate earlier this year, is warning colleagues that the Senate will try to attach AgJobs and DREAM Act provisions to appropriations bills coming up soon. The strategy is hardly news, but the tone makes it sound like these provisions stand a reasonable chance of passage.

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  1. Another voice's Avatar
    After the CIR fiasco nobody should get their hopes up until this is a done deal and Bush is signing it into Law.
  2. paul's Avatar
    Right, Dream Act. Keep dreamin'... and AgJobs. Multi-billion dollar companies like Cisco, Microsoft, and IBM can't hire people to get their project done, but we need more lettuce pickers like lettuce can't get any more expensive and Mexico's lettuce supplies are getting exhausted. I mean it's a serious crisis. And imagine what will happen once those African countries get some breathing space and start exporting agricultural produce. They might stop killing each other and starving and dying of all these diseases. Now that's a problem. We need AgJobs and more subsidies, of course. Yeah, and the Dream Act. Cause God knows we need more high-school kids than post-docs.
  3. drew from immigrants list's Avatar
    Seems like a tactic by Sessions to scare people away from bringing it to the floor by warning of a "fuss."

    Sessions misses the point when he says "We need to focus on the legitimate labor needs of the United States. But our focus should not be on how to serve people who are in the country illegally." The DREAM Act & AgJobs are in the best interest of US Citizens. Keeping kids off the streets & in school and keeping lettuce under $20 a head are in everyone's interest.

    Sorry for the plug, but we do have a write your rep campaign that we're just launching on our site around the Dream Act. Its up at http://www.immigrantslist.org/dream .
  4. Legal Immi's Avatar
    My heart supports the dream act and I understand why dream act is needed but what I fail to understand is why these law makers and advocates of dream act assume that only kids of undocumented people have dream. Why these guys dont take into account the dream of documented alien kids. All the reasons the advocates use to support the dream act equally apply for my friends kid who is 16 years old and on H4 Visa. If the law is passed as it is undocumented kids jump the line and get their green card in no time compared this legal kid who has to wait years before he can see his green card.

    If this is not rewarding of unlawful behavior ,what it is?
  5. Chris's Avatar
    See Paul, you idiot if you would have read the Dream Act legislation you would see that no one is getting a Green Card until they complete at least 2 yrs of COLLEGE not high school moron, or 2 yrs in the military.. So before you comment on something why dont you read it first
  6. Legal Immi's Avatar
    I see the text of the legislation at

    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c110:1:./temp/~c110xT58TJ:e737667:

    I dont know how to read these legislations but here is a snippet from Section 624 of the legislation that talks about the eligibility for "conditional resident status"

    "(D) the alien, at the time of application, has been admitted to an institution of higher education in the United States, or has earned a high school diploma or obtained a general education development certificate in the United States; and"


    Here is a piece of legislations that talks about how conditions are removed ofcourse as usual everything comes with exemption for hardship

    "(D) The alien has completed at least 1 of the following:

    (i) The alien has acquired a degree from an institution of higher education in the United States or has completed at least 2 years, in good standing, in a program for a bachelor's degree or higher degree in the United States.

    (ii) The alien has served in the uniformed services for at least 2 years and, if discharged, has received an honorable discharge.
    "
  7. Limbo's Avatar
    Hopefully some legislation for legal immigrants will also be forthcoming.
  8. paul's Avatar
    Chris, so someone with 2 years of college education gets higher priority than someone with 12 years undergraduate and graduate school combined together with several more years of post-doctoral work and industry experience? Dream act is good but its place is at the end of the queue. It would be fairer to remove inadmissibility ban for these kids and give them F-1 visas + EAD/AP cards, like everybody else. Let them work from there and make it to green-card like the rest of us (after finishing college, getting a job, and getting a willing employer to sponsor them).
  9. a2007's Avatar
    There's so much obvious anti-Republican sentiment in this forum that I detect. Sessions made some very cogent arguments on illegal immigration -all of which I agree with. Why assume he is anti legals? And why should any kid born here from illegals get a fee ride? There's nowhere else in the world that happens. We need more skilled, educated people (net contributors in taxes and jobs) and something done about this hideous green card system/backlog. That's where we should all focus on for now. If things don't change, we will continue to lose more jobs overseas. That's what causes outsourcing. I don't see why people don't get this simple economics - Rep. or Dems.
  10. Legal Immi's Avatar
    I agree with Paul when he says "It would be fairer to remove inadmissibility ban for these kids and give them F-1 visas + EAD/AP cards, like everybody else, Let them work from there and make it to green-card like the rest of us (after finishing college, getting a job, and getting a willing employer to sponsor them) ."

    And I dont understand why when it comes to illegal/undocumented people no country quotas apply.
  11. Legal Immi's Avatar
    a2007

    I am not sure whether you know where Mr. Sessions stand on immigration as a whole. He is opposed to any immigration whether its legal or illegal. You can check it out on numbers usa website

    http://grades.betterimmigration.com/testgrades.php3?District=AL&VIPID=6

    I think this should help you out where Mr. Sessions stand and he represents core voting bloc of republican party.

    Hope this info helps

  12. a2007's Avatar
    I'd be very interested to see more substantive information than the link you post on Session's voting record. This link could have been done by anyone and what is the arbitrary ratings of A's etc.? Seems subjective by the group who did this.
  13. TX's Avatar
    a2007, the Sessions argument might look good to you here, but you will end up hating this guy if you try and research what he did for the employement based green cards back in 2005. He voted to cut the H1B program in half and also ultimately ended up voting against increasing the EB numbers and exempting spouses and children. I do agree that immigration issues cross party line, but most republicans like Sessions who are so against illegal immigration are also against immigrants such as us.

    Go on NumbersUSA website and pull up his voting record. Sessions on the Republican side and Byrd on the Dem side are the most anti-immigrant senators you will come across.
  14. USC's Avatar
    "Why assume he is anti legals?"

    He is. Go to senate.gov. Look at his votes pertaining to amendments which dealt with legal immigration. If you find one in which he was in favor of legal immigrants you can report back to this blog.

    "And why should any kid born here from illegals get a fee ride?"

    Ahh...shades of Thatcher the milk snatcher, eh? The last time I checked she had gone dotty!! On a more serious note, the US constitution grants citizenship to all born in the US. If we are not going to follow the law ourselves and try to subvert it why should we expect the illegals to follow the law? IOW, if we subvert the laws we don't like, they will do likewise!

    "There's nowhere else in the world that happens"

    You are simply wrong on this one. It happens in Canada. See link below:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_nationality_law

    You might also want to look up the admirable concept of jus soli.
  15. Legal Immi's Avatar
    a2007
    I am a legal immigrant, I dont think Mr. Sessions is a friend of immigrants whether legal or illegal. Though I thank him very much for derailing whole CIR crap.

    Mr Sessions or for that matter most of the conservatives hate any one different from them. Thats the fact, just look at the way they try to use gay americans as a wedge issue.

    My point is one can not make me think Mr. Sessions is a friend of mine.
  16. paskal's Avatar
    There's so much obvious anti-Republican sentiment in this forum that I detect. Sessions made some very cogent arguments on illegal immigration -all of which I agree with. Why assume he is anti legals?


    frankly speaking we have no reason to want to create or conjure up enemies- there are already those that militantly oppose any relief to skilled workers in interminable backlogs. those of us who have watched the drama unfold over the last few years have seen the good Senator Sessions block every piece of relief that was suggested for legal immigrants. I do not have the time and inclination to find links for something that is truly an accepted fact- i apologise but that's so- i welcome you though to check his voting record and see if he's ever voted yes on anything that helps immigrants.
  17. TX's Avatar
    a2007, you wanted something substantial, would his own website and his own words on why he is voting for the Byrd amendment (to cut H1b and not to increase EB numbers) are substantial enough?

    http://sessions.senate.gov/pressapp/record.cfm?id=248289&
  18. A2007's Avatar
    TX - Thanks for that link. Yet another idiotic politician out of touch wth business. Good job our Governor in California is an immigrant who understands. However, when I wrote to him some 4 months ago, he wrote back basically saying it's a Federal issue. Glad to see he must have been bombarded by businesses in Silicon Valley to change his stance. I think all these idiotic politicians need a 'day trip' to Silicon Valley, to open their eyes a bit. I am involved with start-ups there and I know how hard it is for such companies to get competent people at all levels of the business.
  19. TX's Avatar
    You're welcome. I'm glad businesses in CA are starting to speak up, there's just so much us immigrants can do. These businesses also need to realize what these immigrant haters such as Sessions are doing not only to the immigrants but also to their businesses. I'm glad that both Perry and Arnold are pushing congress to do something.
  20. JoeF's Avatar
    The LA Times on Monday, 9/10, had an article about the delays in naturalization:
    http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-me-citizenship10sep10,1,7954396.story?coll=la-headlines-frontpage

    One sentence really made my blood boil:
    "Rather than simply determining if the applicants were subjects of FBI investigations, the bureau checked to see if their names showed up in any FBI files, including being listed as witnesses or victims."

    So, they essentially punish people for being a witness or a victim of a crime. Outrageous.
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