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Greg Siskind on Immigration Law and Policy

DOBBSWATCH

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Oh the irony here is really nice. Dobbs, who rails every night about unlawfully present immigrants who have violated US immigrations, seems to have no problem with defending convicted felons where he happens to dislike the law that led to their punishment. I'm talking about his campaign to free two Border Patrol officers convicted by a jury for shooting an unarmed fleeing Mexican. Salon.com reviews the case. And Dobbs is coming under fire from a hate crimes monitoring group.

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  1. Limbo's Avatar
    USC,

    I was just wondering if you could give us a straw man summary of the strive act? I just don't have time to go through it. If anyone knows the key points and can share them, that would be appreciated. I know it has a 10 year exception for schedule A, but don't know much else.
  2. Another voice's Avatar
    I know this guy wants to free these people that were already convicted by a court of law based on evidence. I read somewhere that some Senators were promoting a Presidential pardon for these guys. Then again we are talking about Lou Dobbs the biggest hypocrat on TV, good talent CNN.
  3. Another voice's Avatar
    On a second note on this guy Lou Dobbs he has an article on CNN where he twisted and got things way out of context in regards to a statement made by the Mexican president in regards to migrants and the prosecution of them by the US government this past sunday. This guy has a miss-information campaign and CNN never bothers to get the record streight because is considered his opinion and not news from facts. Anyway the article and real statement may still be posted in NY Times and the twisted version on CNN.com.
  4. TX's Avatar
    CNN used to be a credible news source, what happened to them? I am a fan of Anderson Cooper 360, but the fact that this same news organization employes Lou Dobbs is turning me away from even credible journalists like Cooper and now I refuse to even watch CNN.
  5. Legal and waiting's Avatar
    TX, yes, I think CNN has drastically reduced the quality of their programming. How about Nancy Grace, the queen for gore? I was stuck in a small airport a couple of weeks ago, and CNN was the only channel on TV. After 15 minutes of Nancy, people managed to drag furniture from all over the waiting room, stuck it up, and get to the TV to reduce volume. Nobody could stomach her.
  6. Anonymous's Avatar
    He must really hate latinos!!!

    Wait - his wife is a latina. Oh, and the border agents are also of latino descent.

    You can call him protectionist and a hawk on immigration - I doubt he would disagree. But putting him on a hatewatch website is going too far. He has had all sides on his show. Obviously he has his views, but I doubt he is hateful and I challenge you to find specific and proven evidence to support such claims.

    What bothers me is when people pull that card every chance they get. You really diminish your credibility when you cry wolf all the time. I don't think you should even print such claims on your blog because they border on slander.
  7. Greg Siskind's Avatar
    Anonymous - If you were a long time reader of this blog, you would see numerous examples of Dobbs' stepping in it. I'd suggest you browse the archives before issuing your regular challenges.
  8. Another voice's Avatar
    Here comes this guy anonymous with more stupidity and none sense. Lou Dobbs NEVER gives both sides of the story on his show. He only talks about what is in agreement with his immigrant bashing agenda. But I am not surpise since you always seem to be in agreement with him may you are him and that is why you came up with that clever nick for the blog "Anonymous" you are freakying anoying always answering stupid stuff why don't you erase yourself from the world bro we need less people like you here.
  9. Anonymous's Avatar
    "Anonymous - If you were a long time reader of this blog, you would see numerous examples of Dobbs' stepping in it. I'd suggest you browse the archives before issuing your regular challenges. "

    It's one thing to be wrong and biased on issues - journalists and pundits often are. It's quite another to impune somebody as racist.

    Do you believe Dobbs to be a racist and that he deserves to be lumped with racists - or do you simply believe that he is wrong on the facts?

    Let's not mince words here.
  10. 's Avatar
    "stupid stuff why don't you erase yourself from the world bro we need less people like you here."

    We need less people like you who refuse to think critically about complex issues. You are quite simply put wreckless with your words.

    "He only talks about what is in agreement with his immigrant bashing agenda. "

    As a matter of fact, I don't agree with Dobbs on this issue. I believe that guarding the borders won't do much to solve illegal immigration. And I don't think it is practical to deport millions of people.

    I think there needs to be a path to legalization (call it amnesty if you must). But I think some people should be excluded. For example - people who came since the debate began knowing that we wish them to not come here illegally - hoping to get on the amnesty wagon. And then of course convicted criminals.

    The real solution to this is workplace enforcement. If that isn't accomplished history will just repeat itself.

    Now enter the clowns. Anyone who doesn't want to open borders and to grant absolute amnesty to EVERYONE must be a racist. Right?
  11. Dream Act guy's Avatar
    The Southern Poverty Law Center listed the instances when Dobbs hosted members of white power/hate groups on his show.

    Be informed before you post.
  12. Anonymous's Avatar
    Dream act guy - give me a link please. And what was the context?

    I can remember Heraldo Rivera having KKK members on his show - it was for spectacle and people watched keenly as they fought the Black Panthers on stage. Just because they were on the show doesn't mean he supported their views.

    If you are going to call someone a racist - you better have your ducks in a row.
  13. Greg Siskind's Avatar
    Oh come on Anonymous - I don't think you even believe that Geraldo having a KKK member is the same thing. Geraldo would have a person like that on to challenge their views. I'll bet the farm (not the one that moved to Mexico), that Dobbs had such a person on to bolster his views. Transcripts are available at CNN.com, Dream Act guy, if you happen to do the research on this one.
  14. USC's Avatar
    Limbo:

    "I was just wondering if you could give us a straw man summary of the strive act?"

    Greg had done a summary of this a while back. The link is below:

    http://blogs.ilw.com/gregsiskind/files/section_by_section_summary_of_the_strive_act_of_2007.pdf

    My understanding is that Congresswoman Lofgren wants to have some kind of immigration reform pass the House prior to November 2009. She is holding hearings to see how much support she can garner from across the aisle for the various provisions. STRIVE won't pass in its current form but assuming the pros make their voice heard some of the non-controversial provisions will make it in a pared down version!
  15. USC's Avatar
    "to November 2009"

    Oops, I meant November 2008
  16. Anonymous's Avatar
    "Oh come on Anonymous - I don't think you even believe that Geraldo having a KKK member is the same thing. "

    I don't know what specific guest he is talking about so I don't know for sure. The only group that comes to mind is the Minutemen. I wouldn't put them up there with the KKK if that is the case. They certainly aren't ethnocentric - they have members of all races.

    Oh, he did have another group that calls itself "The Race" - or at least that's what it translates to. One might be inclined to think that is a racist group. They are certainly ethno-centric. They swear they aren't racists if you go to their website, but come on - their name is "The Race".
  17. Dream Act guy's Avatar
    Anonymous, a simple Google search yielded these results.

    From the Southern Poverty Law Center:

    SPLC Intelligence Report: Broken Record
    http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=589

    Errors and Extremist Sources on Lou Dobbs Tonight
    http://www.splcenter.org/news/item.jsp?sid=94

    Spreading Hysteria
    http://www.splcenter.org/news/item.jsp?aid=267

    Anti-Immigration Movement: Using Hate Groups Materials, Dobbs Slams Illegal Immigration
    http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=639

    E-Mails SPLC Received from Dobbs' Supporters
    http://www.splcenter.org/news/item.jsp?sid=95

    Here's some backup material from Media Matters and Working for Change:

    Media Matters
    http://mediamatters.org/items/200605250015

    Working for Change
    http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?itemid=20893

  18. Anonymous's Avatar
    "TEN FREAKING YEARS ! 2 LABOR CERTIFICATIONS LATER !!! AND MY 485 APPROVED TODAY !!!
    WOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
    HOLY CRAP !"

    I bet this guy gets a better paying job within the year. You have more options with a GC.
  19. Anonymous's Avatar
    Dream Act Guy - the articles claim he was wrong on reporting. Some say he focuses too much on the immigration issue. Being wrong and focusing on a single issue are one thing.

    The allegation was racism. I don't have time to hunt down everything Dobbs said. People are tossing around the racist word so you have the obligation to prove it. Otherwise, you're just shooting off your mouth.

    Where is the smoking gun that Dobbs is a racist - or has said something overtly racist? Show me that.
  20. Another voice's Avatar
    Anonymous: "I think there needs to be a path to legalization (call it amnesty if you must). But I think some people should be excluded. For example - people who came since the debate began knowing that we wish them to not come here illegally - hoping to get on the amnesty wagon. And then of course convicted criminals."

    Your Daddy Lou Dobbs does not think this at all. You are the one claiming that his show gives you both sides of the story. Show me in what instance and please on the topic of Immigration.

    Anonymous: "We need less people like you who refuse to think critically about complex issues. You are quite simply put wreckless with your words." Free Speach allows me to let you know what I think about you, your postings and your way of thinking. Ohhh and by the way you do not debate complex issues nor give good arguments EVER in your postings. You just try to sell the Lou Dobbs agenda and nobody is buying!!!!

    Anonymous: "Where is the smoking gun that Dobbs is a racist - or has said something overtly racist? Show me that." If nightly Immigrant bashing and twisting the truth in his one sided arguments does not make him a racist. You need to get the download on racisim that shows how much you actually THINK about this isssue when you try to debate with people. You really showcase your IQ. I am sure people in this Blog will respect your point of view more from now on.

    I stand by my previous comments in regards to your person.

    Anonymous:"The real solution to this is workplace enforcement. If that isn't accomplished history will just repeat itself."

    That is what CIR was supossed to do and your Daddy Lou Dobbs and his camp were not on Board with this because it called it Amnesty for Law breakers. They are down with the round them up and send them back agenda.

    Anonymous: "Now enter the clowns. Anyone who doesn't want to open borders and to grant absolute amnesty to EVERYONE must be a racist. Right?" CIR was suposed to have an orderly set of rules for future Immigrants. Your Daddy Lou Dobbs was not having that one either.
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