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Greg Siskind on Immigration Law and Policy

OUTRAGE OF THE DAY: I-824 PROCESSING TIMES

Rating: 16 votes, 4.75 average.

The I-824 is the form you send USCIS when you need a duplicate approval notice generated and sent to a consulate abroad or you just need a new copy because you've lost your original. It's not exactly rocket science in terms of what has to happen. Someone just needs to print out a new form and pop it in the mail.  Check out these processing times:



California Service Center - 6 months
Nebraska Service Center - 8 months
Texas Service Center - 8 months
Vermont Service Center - 6 months



Talk about bad service. People often are in desperate need to get a duplicate form. How many private companies would survive if they took this long to help a customer? And this problem has been bad for many years so it's not like I'm picking on USCIS while they're experiencing a temporary setback.

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  1. D's Avatar

    New receipting times press release from USCIS

    http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrelease/ReceiptingTimes081007.pdf
  2. N S's Avatar
    The new receipting times report is just a copy paste of the previous one with minor changes like date etc. The worst part is not many received the receipts or had their checks cashed from Jul 2nd.So no one knows how much progress has been made. Its been 40+ days and no one knows the real numbers other than for a generic message of "front log" of applications. People are wondering if USCIS is going to reject applications for not being flawless after Aug 17th.
  3. In Immigration Limbo's Avatar
    I think www.trackitt.com is MUCH more useful than these receipting times press releases. I have been following it closely. My best guess is they are about 1/3 the way through the July 2 filers at Nebraska. Some July 2 filers are even getting fingerprinting appointments. Texas seems a bit further behind.

    If people get rejected on minor technicalities, and because of the long processing delay cannot reapply because their category has become U, that would definitely qualify for an outrage of the day. Of course I am keeping my fingers crossed that I or my attorney didn't mess anything up. I have heard rumors that they are going to be ruthless and unforgiving because they want to cut down on the number of apps they need to process. Let's hope this is not true, as this is people's lives they are dealing with.
  4. Alex's Avatar
    The July applications shall be forwarded on to BEC to be processed within the next 6 months.
    BEC shall be renamed to FEC to better describe the new reality.
  5. Jammy's Avatar
    I'm not sure about the receipts dates. My application arrived on July 1st and still my check has not been cashed. IF the USCIS is operating on the FIFO then I should have my receipt by now.
  6. D's Avatar

    Alex, is this speculation or some inside info?
  7. Waiting for GC's Avatar
    Hmm, that is really interesting news.

    I havenot received my receipt notice yet, I filed my I-485 on July 6th, the last we heard was from Greg, on the Reciept notice data provided by USCIS, that said, they did processed application received on or before July 1st.

    Now I feel, this is another game by USCIS. I think they are going to send out Rejection Notice after 17th, so that those ppl cant file with correct information (if any has to be made) or even if its filed with all documentation, I think once rejected then we will have to wait until next CURRENT date.

    Its kinda scary at the moment, 4 more days to go and I am sure, USCIS witll start sending rejection notice instread of reciept date.

    Greg, Do you have any info as to how far USCIS has processed the application.

    Thanks,
  8. D's Avatar

    Well, call me crazy but I try to stay an optimist and hope for the best. One can go nuts speculating.
  9. Greg Siskind's Avatar
    Waiting for GC - Nothing newer than what was posted below.
  10. G.Das's Avatar
    Greg,

    I filed my app on July 2nd. I have not received any communication yet (no receipt #...). Should we play it safe and file again before Aug 17th to ensure my original app is not rejected/lost?

    Please advice,
    Das
  11. N S's Avatar
    G Das,

    Let me chime in by saying that its really a bad idea to file second time. It is very tempting to do so because we have not received any notice from CIS and checks have not been cashed. If most of us start refiling, it is just going to make the USCIS receipting system crash and possibly USCIS can decide not to process the re-filers as they have been saying that it will take 90 days. There were some folks who filed I-129 this year with more than one company. I am not able to recollect what CIS exactly did in that scenario.

    What we need right now is assurance from CIS that they will not be rejecting applications starting next week in the name of NOT flawless filings, unless initial evidence is missing. Some one would ask me why would CIS do that in the first place. I am reluctant to believe that as well, but in the given situation people feel that any thing can happen with USCIS. Giving an assurance via FAQ 4 will pacify the crowd.

    Now lets lean on to the expert advise from our esteemed attorney.
  12. Waiting for GC's Avatar
    Greg,

    Thanks for the update.

    Sometimes back you had mentioned that USCIS rejected a case filed by your group even that all the required documentation was provided, what happened to that case? Just wondering... I hope that has been resolved. and also trying to put myself in a safe ground what if USCIS starts to reject case next week (like the one you experienced a while back). USCIS's no news is making all of us doubtful regarding their motive and action that might shock all of us again.

    Thanks for your help.
  13. 's Avatar
    Any word on the September Visa Bulletin? Shouldn't it already have been out?
  14. jim's Avatar
    Any clarification on travel without i-485 receipt on a valid dual-intent visa from USCIS? We are waiting for this clarification for over a month now. How to approach USCIS on this to make them issue a memo?
  15. D's Avatar

    I think they covered the travel without I-485 receipt in one of the FAQ documents.
  16. Rob Gard's Avatar
    For the past couple of days, our office has been receiving all sorts of I-797s (receipts, I-130 petition approval notices, I-485 approval notices, etc) mailed in official USCIS envelopes from different USCIS Service Centers (mostly CSC and NBC) that are printed on plain white photocopy paper, with just the body of the notice, and no "NOTICE OF ACTION" heading. There is no printing whatsoever on the reverse side of the notice. Fortunately, we haven't received this type of generic notice on anything pertaining to an NIV extension with a new I-94 attached, but we have received I-765 approvals, I-130 approvals, I-485 approvals and the like. If our clients had to present these approval notices for any other benefits like an application for a Social Security card or drivers license, they would be laughed out of the agency office, if not arrested for trying to pass fraudulent documents. Maybe the USCIS is running out of their special security paper again, or they are reserving the "good stuff" for those who pay the extra $1,000 for Premium Processing. Anybody else receiving these ?

    Robert R. Gard

  17. jim's Avatar
    To D:
    Travel outside usa and back with H1 visa without i-485 receipt, which FAQ covered this scenario?
  18. RJ's Avatar
    Rob, your post is scarey as hell. I am waiting for my AP to travel outside the country, because my visa has expired. If you hadn't mentioned, I probably wouldn't even have noticed. Now I will double triple check everything. What do you do when you get a notice on such (un)official paper?
  19. Rob Gard's Avatar
    RJ:
    Right now, we are asking the USCIS for clarification (I suppose that's asking to much, as they have been so busy clarifying recently). This is probably another instance of poor planning, or maybe they have one of their "lowest bidder" outside contractors doing their supplies purchases. A few years ago, they ran out of security paper for printing I-512 Advance Parole documents so their "solution" was to stop issuing advance paroles at all until they received a new shipment of paper. We are trying to get them to at least honor (and promptly adjudicate)an I-824 for a replacement document, without paying the outrageous $340 filing fee for hitting a few keys on their computer keyboard. Its getting pretty damn tiresome to be taking them to court.

    Rob Gard
  20. Sohbet's Avatar
    Thank you
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