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IMMIGRANT OF THE DAY: ANDREW GROVE - TECHNOLOGY EXECUTIVE

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Andy Grove is not the typical Silicon Valley success story. Most people do not know much about the founder of Intel. Unlike many immigrants in the tech field, Grove did not enter the US as a student or on an H-1B visa. He entered as a political refugee (interestingly, Sergei Brin, founder of Google, entered in the same status).



Grove was born in to a Jewish family in 1936 in Hungary and spent his early years on the run from the Nazis. Several members of his family did not survive the Holocaust including his grandmother who was killed in the Auschwitz concentration camp. Unlike many Jews who left Europe after World War II, Grove's family remained in Hungary. But they finally fled during the uprising in that country in 1956 and came to the US.



Grove's meteoric rise in the tech sector began shortly after that. He went on to graduate college in the US and receive a Ph.D and then began work with Fairchild Semiconductor. He became Intel's fourth employee and then moved in to the president position in 1979. He oversaw the dramatic rise of the company over the next 25 years holding the additional positions of Chairman of the Board and CEO.



Grove has numerous patents and awards including being named Time Magazine's 1997 Man of the Year. In 2004, Wharton named him the most influential businessperson in the last 25 years.



Of course, it's not necessary to discuss just how important Intel is to all of us. The technology developed by the company has changed the world and, along with companies like Microsoft and Google, kept the American technology sector at the forefront of the world. Grove certainly can claim some of the glory for the company's success.

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  1. USC's Avatar
    Andy Groove is a good example of what is wrong with our immigration system. If Andy hadn't qualified as a refugee he would not have fared much better under FB (either no family in the US or stuck 10 years in the backlog) or EB1, EB2, EB4 & EB5. If some enlightened soul like Bill Gates had sponsored him under the Other Workers EB5 category or if had hit the DV lottery he might have made it.

    Of course, the last version of CIR would have made it worse, Andy would have garnered about 20 points.

    H1b? No luck since he wasn't degreed. What if he went to school in Hungary and got a BSc? The journeymen at Programmers Guild would have fought tooth and nail to prevent him from getting a H1b.

    So, the moral of the story is when we oppose immigration the end result is people like Andy Groove don't make it. Genius arises from the unlikliest places.

    Talking about genius. Greg, do dead people qualify for this list? How about Albert Einstein? Lest people accuse me of being pro-European. Let me throw a couple of Indian names. Amar Bose, the founder of Bose Radio Corp and Noble Prize Winners Dr. Hargobind Khurana (still alive but very old, so you might want to honor him) the man behind the science of DNA & Astrophysicist S Chandrasekhar.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amar_Bose

    http://www.indiainfocentre.com/nobel/hargobind-khurana

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subrahmanyan_Chandrasekhar



  2. Greg Siskind's Avatar
    Thanks USC. I'm sticking to living folks for this. If we go with the rest, then that's the whole of US history and my point that immigrants are making a difference today is strengthened. We keep hearing from anti-immigration folks talk about how things are different today and immigration is no longer as necessary as in the past.
  3. USC's Avatar
    Greg:

    Apparently, Amar Bose was born in Philidelphia so he wouldn't qualify for your list. My apologies for the erroneous information.
  4. USC's Avatar
    RE: Amar Bose

    http://www.iloveindia.com/indian-heroes/amar-bose.html

    Apparently, Amar Bose's parents were Freedom Fighters who fled British India and landed in the US. Also, apparently he was born in Philidelphia in 1929.

    Didn't the Chinese exclusion act also apply to Indians back then? So what kind of a baby would that make Amar Bose? LOL!! Could he have been the original, as yet unnamed prototype? LOL!!! Poor guy, back then he was just a baby, now there is an adjective which precedes "baby"!!

    So, the next time Nativist Senator Sessions goes campaign contribution hat in hand to pay Amar Bose a visit, before accepting a contribution he might to enquire whether Amar was a regular baby or did he also have an another function. Of course, given the fact that Amar has been a USC 16 years longer than Jeff, Senator Nativist might want to make sure of his exit route!! LOL!!!
  5. USC's Avatar
    Yes, Indians were barred:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Exclusion_Act
  6. Unique Case!'s Avatar
    Hello,

    I have just got permanent residency in Australia. I have also applied for I-485 and my I-140 is not approved as yet. Based on the current timelines it might take 8 months to get approved.

    I am frustrated with this GC Process in US. Now, that I have applied for I-485 can I leave USA and work in Australia? If I leave USA, will my I-485/I-140 application be cancelled? Also, I plan to be in Australia for about 2 years and, after the I-485 is approved can I come back and get the GC?

    Thanks for your advice.
  7. Legal and waiting's Avatar
    Unique, I am not a lawyer, but I would suggest that you withdraw your I-485, since you will end up abandoning it anyway. You may apply for consular processing later, assuming I-140 is approved and you plan to work for the same employer.
  8. Anonymous's Avatar
    "H1b? No luck since he wasn't degreed. What if he went to school in Hungary and got a BSc? The journeymen at Programmers Guild would have fought tooth and nail to prevent him from getting a H1b."

    No, many of us would fight for his GREENCARD instead. The corporate intervention and corruption of the process is what we object to.

    There are good people associated with the PG so your attacks are just not right.
  9. Anonymous's Avatar
    "Talking about genius. Greg, do dead people qualify for this list? How about Albert Einstein? "

    There is "O" visa for the exceptional people in this world. Let's not forget that. I expect that Linus Trevaldis and all the other exceptional people would qualify. If they don't, we need to change it so they do.
  10. Greg Siskind's Avatar
    >>"Talking about genius. Greg, do dead people qualify for this list? How about Albert Einstein? "

    There is "O" visa for the exceptional people in this world. Let's not forget that. I expect that Linus Trevaldis and all the other exceptional people would qualify. If they don't, we need to change it so they do.
  11. Anonymous's Avatar
    " part of the point is that many people start their careers as just smart folks ready to make a contribution and then eventually develop into the world class types. "

    And they should be on the H-1b as opposed to a green card why?
  12. Greg Siskind's Avatar
    >>And they should be on the H-1b as opposed to a green card why?
  13. JoeF's Avatar
    "No, many of us would fight for his GREENCARD instead."

    That is not what the officials from the so-called Programmers Guild (a misnomer if there ever was one) are advocating.
    The "Programmers Guild" is nothing more than an anti-immigrant outlet. No competent programmer actually is a member of that "Guild".
  14. JoeF's Avatar
    More immigrants in the tech industy:
    - Andy Bechtolsheim, Vinod Khosla (Sun Microsystems co-founders)
    - Philippe Kahn (Borland founder)
    - Sabeer Bhatia (Hotmail founder)
    - Tim Berners-Lee (Web inventor)
  15. JoeF's Avatar
    Oh, and of course, Linus Torvalds, creator of the Linux Operating System...
    Others, of lesser fame:
    - Marco Borreis, creator of StarOffice, which was bought by Sun and later open-sourced as OpenOffice
    - Anders Hejlsberg, creator of TurboPascal, Borland Delphi, and C#
    - Bjarne Stroustrup, create of the C++ programming language

  16. sayyad rizvi's Avatar
    it is an honour for me that i have been studied in the same institution as mr. hargobind khorana did which is GC lahore pakistan, i emailed him and i respect him as nobel laureate.
    may GOD live him long.
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