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Trump Denies Any Change in Policy on Mass Expulsion of 12m Immigrants. Roger Algase

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Update, August 24, 10:18 am:

Donald Trump is apparently continuing to have a debate with himself on whether to stick to his hard line on deporting 12 million unauthorized immigrants, which could put him in the same league, or an even higher one, with Josef Stalin in terms of numbers, see:

or whether, in Trump's words as quoted in POLITICO, "there can be a softening".


Is Trump going to wind up following the lead of John Kerry, who during the 2004 presidential campaign, famously said that he had voted for an $87 billion military spending bill before he voted against it?

Update, August 23, 12:55 pm:

I almost had to laugh reading a POLITICO report today on how Donald Trump's latest campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway, is trying to bob and weave about Trump's latest reversal of his alleged "flip-flop" on mass deportation. See:

With all due respect to Kellyanne Conway's valiant attempt to make it sound as if Trump might be supporting mass deportation that is not really mass deportation, one has to wonder how long it will be before Trump fires her too.

The following post has been expanded as of August 23 at 9:54 am.

In my August 22 Immigration Daily post, I discussed reports that Trump might be planning to back down on his previously announced radical plan to deport up to 12 million mainly Latino, Asian, African and Middle Eastern men, women and children currently in the United States without authorization, something that would be on a scale unheard of in America to date, but which would not have seemed at all unusual to Stalin, Mao Zedong or Pol Pot.

See the links listed in that post. I also mentioned that this might signify an encouraging change in direction for Trump, even though it might mean throwing overboard some of his most devoted white nationalist followers in the KKK and other similar organizations.

Unfortunately, Trump has evidently chosen to stick with the anti-immigrant hard liners who have evidently been influencing his immigration policies to date, such as Senator Jeff Sessions (R-AL). POLITICO reports on August 22 that Trump has announced that he will not make any change in his previous policy, (which has also been causing fears that police-state tactics would be needed to carry out the deportations).


Regretfully, I may have to withdraw my previous suggestion that Trump might be moving in the direction of reason, humanity and reality in terms of his policy on mass expulsion of millions of non-white immigrants.

However, it is also worth noting that, once again Trump spoke ambiguously, as he so often does when talking about immigration policy. On the one hand, he said (according to the above report):

We're going to obey the existing laws. Now the existing laws are very strong...Obama got tremendous numbers of people out of the country. Bush did the same thing...lots of people were brought out of the country with existing laws. Well, I'm gonna do the same thing."

Aside from the fact that it is highly unusual for Trump to give credit to President Obama, whom he recently called a "founder" and "MVP" of ISIS, for enforcing the immigration laws, this statement would indicate that Trump indeed plans to go ahead wih mass deportation of everyone in this country without authorization.

But then, at the same time, he said as quoted in the same POLITICO story:

"...the first thing we're gonna do, if and when I win, is we're gonna get rid of all of the bad ones. We've got gang members, we have killers, we have a lot of bad people that have to get out of the country."

Trump also said that immigrants who;:

"...go around killing people and hurting people" are "gonna be out of this country so fast your head will spin".

Does this mean that Trump only intends to deport violent or dangerous criminals, something that few could argue with? That would contradict his above pledge to deport everyone, and would make his supporters in the KKK very unhappy one can be quite sure.

Or is Trump saying that all unauthorized immigrants in the US, 12 million of them, are violent criminals who "go around killing people and hurting people", something that would be an obvious and blatant lie?

And what does Trump mean, exactly, when he says that he will get people out of this country "so fast your head will spin"?

No one wants violent or dangerous criminal immigrants in America. But hasn't Trump heard about legal procedures that even the most heinous offenders are entitled to under our laws and our constitution?

How about little details like criminal trials and deportation proceedings? Does Trump intend to dispense with those and be a law unto himself?

Since Trump has already announced that he supports torture and supports sending US citizens to Guantanamo (links are not necessary - this is now common knowledge), what new wrinkles might he introduce into the criminal justice or immigration removal proceedings if he does not try to do away with them entirely?

That kind of fascist thinking would be an even greater danger to America than all of the drug dealers and violent criminal immigrants whom Trump can conjure up in his effort to play to the fears and prejudices of the American people.
Roge Algase is a New York immigration lawyer and a graduate of Harvard College and Harvard Law School. For more than 35 years, he has been helping mainly skilled and professional immigrants from various parts of the world obtain work visas and green cards. Roger's email address is

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Updated 08-24-2016 at 09:20 AM by ImmigrationLawBlogs

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  1. Ready for Trump's Avatar
    I don't know if mass deportations will be good or bad for immigration lawyers, but you need to prepare. Every presidential candidate is tempted by amnesty because they think they'll pick up Hispanic votes. Romney came out 45 days before the election in support of amnesty, and before he could put out the firestorm of angry conservatives, he had six million of his core supporters sit out the election. I guess Trump is smarter than Romney because Trump will be the next president.
  2. Unregistered222's Avatar
    Go PRESIDENT TRUMP! GO! Roger is finally feeling on the wrong side of history Good for him!
  3. Unregistered222's Avatar
    I will continue to delete any and all comments expressing hatred against any specific ethnic or religious group in general, whatever the pretext may be.

    Roger Algase
    Attorney at Law
    Updated 08-23-2016 at 10:49 AM by ImmigrationLawBlogs
  4. Unregistered222's Avatar
    Personal insults are also inappropriate on this site.

    Roger Algase
    Attorney at Law
    Updated 08-23-2016 at 12:28 PM by ImmigrationLawBlogs
  5. Miklos's Avatar
    Trump's "deportation" plan is very simple:
    - In order to get a temporary working permit, unlawfully present immigrants will have to go back to their countries of origin, meaning steping into their countries' diplomatic representation(s) accredited in the US: as soon as they put foot in an embassy and/or consulate(s) to get their documents updated, and subsequently leave those sovereign territories, they will automatically be granted a lawful status in the United States.
    - The whole bureaucratic ordeal shouldn't take more than 24 hours.

    Trump's "deportation" plan = Obama's Executive Actions on Immigration on steroids
  6. ImmigrationLawBlogs's Avatar
    Could Miklos advise which one of Trump's announcements or speeches contains the details he mentions and when the announcement was issued?

    The latest reports that I have have been reading have a dramatically different description of his deportation plan - one that would appear to involve the fast and permanent removal of millions of unauthorized immigrants, in all likelihood with little if any regard for the niceties of due process as mandated by our current immigration laws which Trump claims he wants to carry out.

    Trump's plan might well turn out to be fascism on steroids, not legalization on steroids.

    Roger Algase
    Attorney at Law
    Updated 08-23-2016 at 08:38 PM by ImmigrationLawBlogs
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