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Greg Siskind on Immigration Law and Policy

Gang of Eight Agrees on Path to Citizenship

Rating: 7 votes, 5.00 average.

From the LA Times:


Eight senators who have spent weeks trying to write a bipartisan bill
to overhaul immigration laws have privately agreed on the most
contentious part of the draft -- how to offer legal status to the
nation's 11 million illegal immigrants.

According to aides familiar with the closed-door negotiations, the
bill would require illegal immigrants to register with Homeland Security
Department authorities, file federal income taxes for their time in
America and pay a still-to-be-determined fine. They also must have a
clean law enforcement record.


Once granted probationary legal status, immigrants would be allowed
to work but would be barred from receiving federal public benefits,
including food stamps, family cash assistance, Medicaid and unemployment insurance.




The eight Senators still have not decided how long it will be before immigrants could file for permanent residency. The President has proposed eight years. The LA Times reports that the Senate will likely make the path at least ten years.


Other unresolved issues:


- how many visas for highly skilled workers


- how the guest worker program will work


- exit tracking of immigrants



- how much money can be allocated for border enforcement.


Finally, the goal of introducing the bill by March 22nd appears to be slipping and early April may now be the time frame.

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  1. CIR2013's Avatar
    GOBAMA YOU CAN DO IT!!!
  2. Rajani's Avatar
    Any chance for the Nurse Bill will be part of the over all CIR?
  3. Samuel Berger's Avatar
    Total media blackout regarding the ongoing developments in the Korean Peninsula:
    On Monday March 11th, 2013, Democratic People's Republic of Korea has officially (and unilaterally) nullified the 1953 Armistice Agreement, meaning war is effectively on.
    http://www.rodong.rep.kp/InterEn/index.php?strPageID=SF01_02_01&newsID=2013-03-11-0015

    This decision carries the following messages:
    - Continental United States, Japan and South Korea are legitimate targets for nuclear strikes by North Korea's ICBMs
    - China and the Russian Federation will side with North Korea
    - If war remains on a conventional level, North Korea will emerge victorious
    - This event (armistice's unilateral nullification by the DPRK) will accelerate the demise of the US Dollar, a dramatic increase in the prices of oil and precious metals
    - The emergence of People's Republic of China as the indisputable superpower of the 21st century
  4. my2cents's Avatar
    If illegals can file for GC in 8-10 yrs, it would be better being an illegal. I have been waiting for 6+ yrs already legally.

    Why not fix/eliminate the EB backlog by recapturing the unused visa numbers? How about setting a up quota system for illegals when there is one already in place for legals in FB & EB? If illegals are getting GC's in 8-10 yrs, eliminate country quotas and make GC residency based like rest of the Western world instead of the discriminatory country of birth quota system.
  5. Greg Siskind's Avatar
    Hi Rajani -

    There is an advocacy effort going on to include the nurses. Not sure it will be enough, but I'm going to DC next week to work on this.
  6. my2cents's Avatar
    Greg, I'm been waiting on this Sch A for the past 6+ yrs, the Congress doesn't give a hoot for the healthcare/allied skilled workers. When you see them busy on deciding on time frames for illegals in getting GC's, it clearly shows how much they care about the EB folks.
  7. Legal and no longer waiting's Avatar
    my2cents, it seems that what you care about is how to make others' lives more difficult. Well, generally, nobody likes people like that. Hint: you need others to like you if you want them to "care" for you.
  8. RR's Avatar
    @LNLW
    And it seems that you want to keep the status quo.

    You sound pretty full of yourself for someone that has been way off the mark on your earlier assertions. Didn't you very confidently predict that EB2I would have been current sometime in 2012, and thereby bills like HR3012 were not needed?

    BTW, still waiting on you provide examples of legislative actions that conformed to "do no harm to anyone", and didn't affect any group of people negatively....
  9. Vijay's Avatar
    Hi Greg,
    It makes no sense for a spouse of Green card holder from India/china/Mexico/Philippines to be separated by 2.5yrs or more. Is there anything in CIR to call spouse of Green card holder as immediate relative so that they can at least be brought to the U.s on a visa while I130 is pending?

    thanks,
    vijay
  10. my2cents's Avatar
    @LNLW,

    I'm just asking for a fair and streamlined process for EB folks. I don't mind waiting if LPR is guaranteed within a stipulated time frame like they are planning for the illegals. The way EB-2 is moving it looks like the illegals would get their citizenship as well before I even get my LPR!!!
  11. Legal and no longer waiting's Avatar
    my2cents, first of all, you are incorrect with your asssessment. The way EB2 moves, you will eventually get your LPR. The way the legislative process it is right now, illegals are not getting anything, and if they will, you don't know how long it would take them - after all, from their point of view, you were eligible for a green card pretty much from the day you stepped on US soil.

    What you need to do is instead of providing ammunition for the anti immigrants and knock down others (much worse off then you are), try to make a good case for yourself. You want EB2 to move smoothly... OK, I see you have a vested interest here. But why would an average American want to fix EB2 to move smoothly? Remember, they hear quite a bit about immigrants taking their jobs (antis are working hard and often smart) - you need to sell your case.
  12. Rajani's Avatar
    Thank you Greg and its nice to hear that you will be going to DC on the subject I mentioned. My friends and I sincerely hope people like you and likeminded will take care of the interest of healthcare professional and/or removal of cap (like a bill which was introduced in the previous house). Even if a Nurse Bill is introduced and enacted into for about ten to fifteen thousand Nurses it will solve the problem being faced by RNs like me, who have been waiting since 2006 onwards for a NVC number. Once again I appreciate in taking care of our interest
  13. RR's Avatar
    @LNLW

    Wow, I don't even know where to begin, your post was completely flabbergasting.

    "The way the legislative process it is right now", as you phrase it, allows petals to eventually get a green card. "Eventually", in the case if legals, can range from a few years to a few decades, based on current trends, and of course, that's totally fair according to you, never mind that only a certain group of people are being affected. But let's put the aside and just take your statement to it's logical end.

    "The way the legislative process it is right now", illegals shouldn't get immigrant benefits at all, correct? According to current law, they are subject to 3 or 10 year entry bans. The legals can get their green cards "eventually", but the illegals need to be deported under current law, isn't it? How about we wait for that?

    BTW, the same argument you make about immigrants taking away jobs can be made foe illegals too. In their case, it's even more stark because of the numbers involved. 11+ million jobs being taken away by these illegals, according to your logic. In the past, high school students used to work summers in the service industry and other lower paying jobs to save money for college, or to buy a car or for other purposes. Not anymore. Where did those jobs go?

    The very points that you make to mock legal immigrants and empathize with illegals can also be applied to them. What are they selling to press their case?

    Of course, I don't expect any answers from you.
  14. Legal and no longer waiting's Avatar
    RR, you must have a really twisted mind to interpret my words that way. There is really nothing I can help you with here.
  15. Greg Siskind's Avatar
    Vijay - Making spouses of green card holders immediate relatives for green card processing is one idea being discussed for the big immigration bill.
  16. my2cents's Avatar
    @RR, I love your statement on "eventually".
  17. my2cents's Avatar
    Greg, what are the chances of the I-squared bill being attached to the CIR. I hope you are making a push for that too along with the Sch A. Recapturing the unused visas and exlcuding dependents from the visa cap would make most EB categories current.
  18. RR's Avatar
    @LNLW
    I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you have no answers, I called it at the end of my previous post, didn't I?

    In any case, please feel free to refute anything I said. And please use facts to disprove anything I said.

    Oh, and I am still waiting for you provide examples of legislative actions that conformed to your "do no harm to anyone" principle. Or was that in the same vein of "EB2I will be current in 2012, HR3012 is not needed"?
  19. S's Avatar
    RR ,

    If you ask hard questions , you will be called names. I think legal immigrants should oppose any bill that do not address current backlogs in a substantial way.
  20. Greg Siskind's Avatar
    my2cents - I think the odds are pretty good I-Squared will be in the comprehensive bill. We'll know soon.
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