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June 25, 2009

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@Legal and suffereing
"some legal immigrants will become illegal."

haha.. well said... and dont forget "most legal immigrants will go broke paying USCIS and the lawyers... :)"

Some politicians will be re-elected...some immigration lawyers will become richer.

Some illegal immigrants will be legal...some legal immigrants will become illegal.

Looks like the Energy bill has more chances to pass now than HC reform. The House will be voting on it this Friday and word is Nancy Pelosi really thinks it will pass (by a squeaker) otherwise she won't let it even be on the floor for voting.

Conflicting reports on CIR as well, with the Whitehouse (via Rahm and Gibbs) downplaying chances but Reid saying he has the votes and now Nancy Pelosi says she can get it done if the Senate passes it first.

If I am being optimistic, I would say there is some kind of strategy or tactic involved somewhere.


If Obama takes leadership on this issue and is willing to spend his political capital, then there is a good chance of the passage of this bill this year. He should not make the same mistake as he has with the healthcare bill by leaving it to the house and the congress to come up with the solution.
As a result the healthcare bill is going through a roller coaster ride.

'legalization of undocumented workers'

'And we need a effective way to recognize and legalize the status of undocumented workers who are here'

'12 million or so undocumented workers'


His words read that it's just 'workers' who get amnesty. He's done this before. Is he just imprecise or playing word games? I think the answer is obvious.

'One of the things that was said around the table is the American people still don't have enough confidence that Congress and any administration is going to get serious about border security, and so they're concerned that any immigration reform simply will be a short-term legalization of undocumented workers with no long-term solution with respect to future flows of illegal immigration.'

I can't imagine why they'd think that.

What is a short-term legalization? He's surely not referring to temporary non-enforcement but amnesty. Amnesty is permanent. It's the promised enforcement people think will be temporary and is completely dependent on the will of the Executive. There is no way to guarantee that after the irrevocable amnesty is granted that anything will be done as far as enforcement--it's a meaningless promise. In fact, the political forces which are categorically against enforcement will be strengthened by the amnesty which will make enforcement more politically difficult going forward. The legal versions of these groups will first attempt to delay and then weaken anything which might help. How do we know? Because they already do this.

Amnesty sends a message that the U.S. government does not take immigration law seriously so why should you? People need to realize these things before getting their hopes up that CIR would fundamentally change future flows of illegal immigration. There are also all kinds of magnets which will not be addressed at all in CIR.



He really didn't say anything new... same old story. I think we will have 4 more years of the previous administration in this matter :( oh well...

I guess this is what is going to happen. They are going to give it a shot. But Rahm is just saying so, so that he can say on behalf of the administration "I said so" if CIR gets defeated in either house.

Bah, all lip service, i don't see any time frame or any sense of urgency, just same ol rhetoric, we can all kiss CIR's backside goodbye for now...and forever.

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