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July 29, 2009

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It is just the issue of immigration and Hispanics? No, Obama got elected on white votes, not Hispanic votes. And Obama and the Demoncrats will not be getting those same white votes in 2010 or 2012, especially with complete economic failure and the new massive middle class tax increases just announced by Geitner on Sunday morning talk shows.

Vitter and hookers for conservative Christian values...that will fly well with the American people!!!

Vitter talking about Christian values again? LOL!!!

AILA statement on Legal Immigration Reform

http://newsblaze.com/story/20090729160245zzzz.nb/topstory.html

You all probably heard Voinovich's comments of the GOP becoming the party of southern conservatives (ie., rednecks). Vitter protested Voinovich's comments and said the southerners stood for conservative Christian values. If indeed what Vitter representes the southerners, that does not bode well for them. With all due respects to Greg who hails from Memphis, I must say that most of the recent philanderers are from the South including Vitter himself..the others being Sanford and Beasley. Of course, then you can include, Ensign and the former Idaho senator to the list as well..then it is the GOP. Great conservative values, these guys have. I think these genteel but angry white southerners got away with philandering because their affairs were with white women. Had this been interracial all of them would have been ousted. GOP's current values are neither Christian nor conservative..in fact, it is an insult to the true Christians and conservatives..most likely they are pandering to the white skin color worshipping constituents..and these are the folks CIS and FAIR appeal to..they dont care about American workers loosing jobs! They just dont want foreingers moving to America. But, as these white southerners tell death row inmates, "they should have thought about it when they committed the crime." in this case the crime being saddling future generation with indebtedness to Asian countries and forfeiting the country's sovereignty.

Jack - I'm sure the antis like yourself would like the GOP to believe this line. Except that your logic is backwards. Even if what you said is true, when there is a close election, the Latino vote will become even more important. Saying Obama didn't need them because he did so well overall is small comfort to a party trying to figure out how to win elections again. Shift another 10% or so of Latinos and then tell me how the GOP wins the presidency EVER AGAIN. You can't just keep trying to increase your percentage of angry white right wing voters.

'Some even credit this shift in votes to giving Obama the electoral votes to win the White House.'

Or 'some' could simply run the numbers and determine what, in fact, occurred. Some people not named Frank Sharry actually did:

'What if there were no Latino voters?
In a counter-factual world in which there were no Latino voters, both New Mexico and Indiana would have switched into the McCain column. But Obama would have still won the electoral vote.'

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27582147/

By a still wide margin. You expect the ethnic special interest groups and other amnesty advocates to push this myth but whatever magazines or newspapers did perhaps were 'coloring the news', i.e., ignoring facts which, in this case, refuted their preconceived script.


Did Democrats get hurt by trying to block Hispanic Judges? I doubt that the largely polite opposition (God, let future hearings be as cerebral and as pleasant) to the soon to be Justice is going to be a major factor in anything.
Immigration reform, the economy, and foreign policy (what are we doing supporting that power-hungry lunatic in Honduras?) on the other hand...

Greg,

With health care pushed back to fall, what are the chances of CIR or any immigration bills to be tackled this year? I think its Health Care and then Energy and probably Immigration sometimes next year.

On that note, here is a few good new from USCIS "USCIS Says Name-Check Backlog is Resolved - http://www.uscis.gov/files/nativedocuments/national-security-adjudication-reporting-020909.pdf"


There was a conference call by USCIS Ombudsman - http://www.dhs.gov/xabout/structure/gc_1171038701035.shtm, any idea what was said in there?

Greg,
In state after state the Latino and Asian-American votes will be vital to the GOP next year. The GOP base is increasingly crazy and trying to cultivate their hatred is not a path to victory.

Patrick Young, Esq. CARECEN

The GOP continues to try to define their course and identity...with all Americans!! I think that the fact that they are not considering the demographic changes in the country as it relates to their political actions is important!! I will say that so far they seem to be successful I defeating Obama in Healthcare, people think the status quo is better. I think in Immigration sort of the same thing happen last time around. I would not bet the Hispanic vote returning to their party any time soon for a variety of reasons including immigration!! Mostly because they do not feel represented as people in that party!!!

Greg,

The GOP clearly has to re-evaluate their relationship with Hispanics. However, I disagree that the Sotomayor vote is the latest example. I was very unimpressed with her during the hearings, and I think the GOP was right to vote the way they did.

As a Hispanic myself, I am thrilled to see Hispanics reach new levels. But this cannot be about race. It has to be about merits. I sure hope she does better as a justice than as a nominee.

Finally, I submit to you that the GOP would have voted almost exactly the same way whatever the color of her skin. On the other hand, I think race played a huge role in the way the Democrats voted. Race shouldn't play a role either way. It is very disappointing to see politicians willing to compromise and create a more flexible standard just because of the color of someone's skin. As a minority, I don't consider that advancement.

I commend the GOP for making the right vote, knowing full well the consequences would be commentary like the one in your post.

JC

GOP are digging/dug their own grave, i doubt any of then will change their xenophobic stance on the Immigration reform as well, the GOP has lost leadership, its a dead party, the democrats will rule for the better half of the century.

Too bad that the CIR will never get through though, atleast this Obamas tenure.

If the economy recovers strongly and the GOP still opposed reform, they will pay a heavy price!

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