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August 07, 2012

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"Not publicly..government officials are not supposed to go in front of the media and disagree with the politically appointed staff. People have been fired for this in the federal governement in the past."

Wrong. Government employees are absolutely allowed to disagree, publicly, with politically appointed staff. It happens all the time, at all levels of government, and people aren't fired if, like Crane, they continue doing their job despite their public criticism of the policy. Public dissent by government employees is protected speech under the seminal Supreme Court decision on this, Pickering (authored by Justice Thurgood Marshall), and all its progeny.

New healthcare law skillfully crafted to expose all undocumented immigrants living in the country - Uninsured codeword for undocumented come 2014

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-usa-healthcare-immigrationbre8780gp-20120809,0,1772845.story

Who knew ICE and CBP were full of antis?...


Whatever we might complain about the Americans we are light years ahead of the Singaporeans who are pretty selfish and believe in a one way street...they have made it clear that they are not proud of anyone born abroad and winning a medal for Singapore. There are many folks who became US citizens who thought they might have been better off in Singapore. Think again. Singaporeans are pretty disgraceful in their behavior...the fact is the locals in Singapore cannot compete in anything. Having lived there, I dont think they can even hold a racket with two hands, let alone compete in ping pong....

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/aa91c406-e062-11e1-9335-00144feab49a.html#axzz23383TuOG


Who knew the Reouks like some union folks......

PS sorry Greg I was wondering why you had not posted the story in you Immigrant of the day.

"Crane is free to disagree publicly with the policies all he wants and can't be fired for that, and that's a good thing."

Not publicly..government officials are not supposed to go in front of the media and disagree with the politically appointed staff. People have been fired for this in the federal governement in the past.

While I find Chris Crane's hearsay claims odious, it does fall under protected speech. In addition, in his role as head of the union, he has additional standing to speak, as he is viewed as speaking for his colleagues, not just himself. If he were to suggest that the ICE union would not follow orders, or to order a strike or sick out, that would be insubordination, and grounds for punishment.

AV - I'm just getting to the Ms on my Olympic IODs. Don't steal my thunder :-)

Former Undocumented Immigrant Leo Manzano Wins Silver Olympic Medal for U.S.

http://colorlines.com/archives/2012/08/former_undocumented_immigrant_leo_manzano_wins_silver_olympic_medal_for_us.html

WOW Napolitano/Obama getting back-stabbed BIG TIME here....who knew that the poeple that work for you would tema up with Chief antis in the Senate. Not sure if with this out in the public arena these folks would get fired, but demoded? early retirement?

Actual insubordination, as opposed to protected speech for which no one should be terminated or, as AILA puts it, "shown the door", _is_ being punished. See http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/senator-ice-agent-facing-punishment-for-arresting-illegal.html.

Oh, please. The ICE and CBP union heads are engaging in protected speech. Publicly disagreeing with DHS leadership's policies is not "insubordination" or, as the ridiculous AILA leadership blog (http://ailaleadershipblog.org/2012/08/06/reminding-christopher-crane-that-he-is-president-of-the-ice-union-not-the-united-states/) puts it, "mutinous" - and it certainly isn't grounds for termination. However, if Chris Crane, in his normal duties as an ICE agent, were to refuse to carry out ICE leadership's policies, then _that_ would be insubordination. But that is not what Chris Crane is doing. He, and many other ICE agents, may not like the policies, but they are doing their jobs. Crane is free to disagree publicly with the policies all he wants and can't be fired for that, and that's a good thing.

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