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Sep 15, 2010

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In response to Jeffrey Lubbers:

You are certainly entitled to your opinion. However, I believe your position does not hold up. Here's my 2 cents:

(1) It is unfair to blame an opposition party for opposing.
(2) Even should a majority fail due to the parliamentary procedure that is part of our system of legislation (i.e. filibuster), the majority is entitled to credit for trying. To this date, the Democratic leadership has tried NOTHING on immigration. Their rhetoric blaming the Republicans is designed purely to remove the focus from their own inaction. The current Democratic leadership consciously decided to throw immigrants under the bus, and now they have to bear responsibility for their decision.
(3) The same analysis applies to health care. The Democratic party deliberately chose to throw several constituencies (including immigrants) under the bus for the dubious privilege of passing the health care bill, which is probably likely to be de-funded before it goes into effect. The leadership which made that decision cannot avoid responsibility now.
(4) The GOP is bigger than the loud racists within its ranks. The immigration issue is, and has always been, a bi-partisan one. I certainly believe that a pro-immigration policy (particularly on employment based immigration) is possible under GOP leadership. Sadly, some so-called "pro-immigrant" voices are actually so only in name, scratch under the surface, and you find a "pro-Democrat" who would gladly stab immigrants in the back to support any Democratic priority.

Dear ILW---Spare us the Anti-Obama screeds please. Everything he said in the quotations in the Politico article was true--sad but true. The (anonymous) commenter somehow is blind to the obvious strategy by Senate Republicans to block anything that Obama wants to do--and unfortunately it is easy for 41 members to do just that. Health care reform was also overdue and important. If the commentator thinks immigration policy would be more pro-immigrant with the GOP in charge, then he must be living on another planet.

My previous comment was in response to Karen Pena's. The following is in response to Ken Ortiz's comment.

Even should Congress enact the kind of DREAM bill you propose, it would run afoul of the equal protection guarantees of the constitution. Rejecting second class citizenship is not something that the "pro-immigrant" lobby demands, such an unequal treatment of United States citizens is impossible under our constitution.

If I were to craft a way for DREAM to get enacted, I think that going about it the way you outline would be an excellent idea. Because, once enacted in such a way, we can then rely on the Supreme Court to strip away the noxious elements, leaving a pure DREAM intact, one without any classes of citizenship.

It is true that such would "incentivize parents" and "advantage the people who brought the DREAM beneficiaries here". Such results follow from the principle of equality before the law that is part of the American system of government.

I am in favor of our constitution, and our system of government. I do not believe that the "pro-immigrant" lobby is asking for anything that is foreign to American ideals. DREAM is a just law, and remains just even when DREAM beneficiaries sponsor their family members.

The DREAM Act would have a much better chance of passing if it provided that the beneficiary could not use his later status as a USC to sponsor the aliens that brought him here against his will. This would benefit the innocent child brought here unwillingly, but not incentivize the parents or advantage the people who brought him here.

This would almost ensure its passage, as it is fair to the kids and takes away the reward for bringing children to the US illegally.

Of course, this will be rejected outright by the pro-immigrant lobby, probably with cries of second class citizenship. As usual, this lobby's inability to compromise will result in the passage of no bill and maintenance of the status quo.

Indeed, TPS would be a temporary solution, and only the legislature can fashion a permanent solution. The procedure for obtaining TPS may well be onerous, as you indicate. Nevertheless, there would be two immeasurably great benefits from TPS: (i) there would be immediate legal work authorization for the undocumented and (ii) the Republican argument of illegal vs. legal would be discredited, painting the racist extremists in their true colors - as anti-immigration, not pro-rule-of-law. Finally, the entire Democratic leadership is at this moment engaged in a pre-planned concerted effort to fool immigrants (ie USCs in mixed status families) into believing that the Democrats are the immigrants friends. Such an effort pre-supposes that immigrants will not see through the Democrats' lies, and is indeed insulting.

Do people think that 'granting TPS" to all undocumented people is a viable option? PLEASE, reality check!
TPS is extremely hard to get and there are very strict requirements, the President can just decide to grant 11 million people temporary protected status, which by the way as the name says it is temporary NOT a permanent solution. The title of this post is misleading and delusional

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